say what you want dec 11 but its true bud. why would i lie on a steroid forum? i'm planning my first cycle after i cut to under 10% i'm sure not all of it was bodybuilding gains. My body filled out naturally i'm sure seeing as i didn't grow till i was 18. i am a late bloomer for sure. i have awesome genetics tho. My moms side are all 6'5 and they were all bodybuilders. haters gonna hate, but i'm natural as ****