Quote Originally Posted by invizion View Post
Gains must taper dramatically at some point then. Here is my deal. I have gained 25lbs and am leaner than when I started working out 7 months ago and I have not dieted until 3 days ago. I did take a scoop of whey protein powder post workout every time though. I have also started my cycle 3 days ago and am eating 2000+ calories over my TDEE. I thought it wasn't unimaginable for someone to gain 30lbs on a test e and dbol cycle ? Even if I keep 15lbs and I do more cycles how will it take me 6-10 years ? 2-3 years seems more realistic but this is why I'm the one asking the question lol cause I don't know shit yet
What you gained so far are typically called 'n00b gains'. It's relatively easy to gain fast in the beginning for most people, but yes, it most definitely tapers.

It's definitely not unimaginable to gain 30lbs on a test/dbol cycle. However, what makes you think you'll be able to keep 15lbs of that? Without the fundamentals, you won't keep a single pound, trust me. I'm not trying to shoot you down, just being honest and realistic. I don't like seeing people setting themselves up for failure.