shoulders

[scobbs]

These are all the same exersize practically...
Also when I do upright rows I move my grip to about shoulder width, insted of close grip, this takes the stress of the fronts and kills the medial delt, they will make you wide as fvck

haha thats what I like to hear, thanks for your advice i think i was over doing it with the press exercises.

im gunna give that sample workout uve posted ago for a few weeks c if i make an improvement.

when you do DB lat raise do you kept your elbows really bent or more straight, alot of people at the gym tell me different ways maybe its just preference??

thanks bro

[BigBuck6]

haha thats what I like to hear, thanks for your advice i think i was over doing it with the press exercises.

im gunna give that sample workout uve posted ago for a few weeks c if i make an improvement.

when you do DB lat raise do you kept your elbows really bent or more straight, alot of people at the gym tell me different ways maybe its just preference??

thanks bro

Keep your elbows straight, bending them takes stress off your delts, which leads to less growth.

[terraj]

Keep your elbows straight, bending them takes stress off your delts, which leads to less growth.

Sorry Buck, but explain please.

If you do machine side raises your arm is at 90 degrees and it still hits the delts.

All bending the arm will do is change the amount of weight you use...IMO