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    I think its always wise to look at your test levels before starting a cycle particularly at 40 plus. At 50 plus unless your levels are abnormally high for you age you will have a lot of trouble keeping what you gained on cycle as well as recovering your test levels back to pre cycle level. For these reasons I really don't see much point in doing cycles at 40+ in most cases and at 50+ the number of people who will achieve what they desire is very low IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Far from massive View Post
    For these reasons I really don't see much point in doing cycles at 40+ in most cases and at 50+ the number of people who will achieve what they desire is very low IMHO.
    Maybe I'm just lucky then cuz I see and feel some nice changes in the last three weeks. And the 500mg dose hasn't kicked in yet. And I've put 9 lbs from my start at 174 lbs. Time will tell. My lifts are up 30% from when I started free weights about 15 weeks ago. Of course I've never lifted before so maybe the gains should be expected. Anyways my goals are modest. Obviously not chargin' like a 20-something

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeniZen View Post
    Maybe I'm just lucky then cuz I see and feel some nice changes in the last three weeks. And the 500mg dose hasn't kicked in yet. And I've put 9 lbs from my start at 174 lbs. Time will tell. My lifts are up 30% from when I started free weights about 15 weeks ago. Of course I've never lifted before so maybe the gains should be expected. Anyways my goals are modest. Obviously not chargin' like a 20-something
    Denizen, I think you misunderstood my post, I am not saying that at 50+ you will not see great gains from a cycle. Just the opposite you will see fantastic gains since if your body is used to having a low test level and you load it with 4-5 times a physiologic level of test then it will respond fantastically. What I was pointing out is that if your base test score (precycle) is on the low side of normal for your age then you will have a great deal of difficulty holding the gains once the cycle is over. Hence the reccomendation of checking your test scores precycle or 3 or even better 6 months after a cycle to make sure you really do need TRT before just beginning it since it sounds like fun.

    As far as MR10X'z feelings about not being able to make gains if you are on TRT because the body needs change, I agree the body needs change to make big gains it also needs a base test level to hold them. Hence if you base test levels are below normal or even in the bottom 3rd of the range for a 50 yr old and you substitute with a level of test that restores you to the upper end of natural limits ( "TRT" any other constant use of test that results in a higher value is not TRT its just staying on cycle) then you will indeed see gains and change when you go from a base level of test to 5 times that. I do agree with you that lots of people cruising are not going to see the gains they seek when on cycle since they are maintaining at a supraphysiologic level of test. However these people are not on TRT no matter what they call it themselves.
    Last edited by Far from massive; 04-16-2011 at 11:44 AM.

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