54 year old half way thru first cycle...should I just stay on?

[Far from massive]

I was speaking from experince, as an older lifter myself who has no need for TRT. I also have a couple of training buddys in there 50s, one at 57....neither of them cycle, both have abs and lift harder then most guys on here I would say. I did not see his Test numbers, I advised that he get his numbers before making a choice. To many of you meatheads (no names) are looking to jump on TRT without a need for it.
Also I don't think it is something to self medicate, there are other issues that need to be monitiered.
Key point in his post for me was- First Cycle!
You finished looking like a fool?

The movie Platoon, Sgt. Elias to Terraj:

Terraj, take a break! You don't have to be a prick every day of you life, you know.

[MR10X]

"As far as MR10X'z feelings about not being able to make gains if you are on TRT because the body needs change, I agree the body needs change to make big gains it also needs a base test level to hold them. Hence if you base test levels are below normal or even in the bottom 3rd of the range for a 50 yr old and you substitute with a level of test that restores you to the upper end of natural limits ( "TRT" any other constant use of test that results in a higher value is not TRT its just staying on cycle) then you will indeed see gains and change when you go from a base level of test to 5 times that. I do agree with you that lots of people cruising are not going to see the gains they seek when on cycle since they are maintaining at a supraphysiologic level of test. However these people are not on TRT no matter what they call it themselves."

I agree You can only train so long and see progress,you need to give your body and mind a rest.Staying at a high level of test and cruizing is not the way to do it,you can acomplish the same thing on much lower doses. Take a break give your joints a rest,you can mentally burn out also.At 50 and 60 my body doesnt recouperate like it did at 30 and 40 even on steroids. It only makes sense to me to cycle your steroids and training. I find i get much better results cycling and letting my body normalize,i dont really feel that bad off steroids and enjoy the break and look foward to starting a cycle after a good break. Kevin Levrone says he even took a week or 2 off while he was training for the Mr Olympia if he needed it.

[terraj]

The movie Platoon, Sgt. Elias to Terraj:

Terraj, take a break! You don't have to be a prick every day of you life, you know.

I'm sorry if I offended you princess.

[Far from massive]

I'm sorry if I offended you princess.

Did not offend me at all, the only thing you may have said aimed at me was that you don't feel its a good idea to self medicate TRT and that's fine with me for many its probably is a very poor decision. What I find innapropriate is that you consistently come on and insult other board members calling them things like Meathead, Moron and Fool. Not that I necessarily agree with what the others had posted I just don't see any reason for comments like that and feel that it’s kind of out of place on a non flaming board.

[terraj]

Did not offend me at all, the only thing you may have said aimed at me was that you don't feel its a good idea to self medicate TRT and that's fine with me for many its probably is a very poor decision. What I find innapropriate is that you consistently come on and insult other board members calling them things like Meathead, Moron and Fool. Not that I necessarily agree with what the others had posted I just don't see any reason for comments like that and feel that it’s kind of out of place on a non flaming board.

Dear Richard,

Take look at my past posts and see how many times I have called names, you will find it very few. I've never used the name Moron on anyone, as for Meathead...if you did not notice the name was used on me first, I just returned it.

Now pull your head in fool!

All the best

Terraj