What exactly is volume?

[baseline_9]

Your wrong

BP is correct...

Weight has nothing to do with intensity...

Volume is referin to total sets, also number of workout per week could come into this equation as well

Normally your posts are solid, but you missed the mark on this one. You only provided half of the equation.

Volume = Sets x Reps

Sets determine volume, but do not = volume
Reps determine intensity (what % of 1rm you will be lifting at)

[pebble]

Your wrong

BP is correct...

Weight has nothing to do with intensity...

Volume is referin to total sets, also number of workout per week could come into this equation as well

I am right. Check any text book: http://books.google.com/. If we want to get very specific volume is more about amount of work per unit [in this case we are referring to per workout session, although it is better to do per time] because if you did 20 sets in a day vs 20 sets in an hour we have a profound difference in one’s relative training volume vs absolute training volume. To compound this problem without accounting for intensity we know nothing about the work done. Intensity is simply work done per unit. In this case we are talking per rep. This is measured by intensity (weight) used compared to max voluntary intensity (weight). Once again per unit of time is better because it then accounts for the velocity of the movement which can play a role in one’s intensity, but this becomes too complex and tedious for most.

Here is an example to illustrate the problem you are creating by not using all information available.

Day 1 you perform 100 sets. Day 2 you perform 5 sets. By your system of measure you performed less volume Day 2.

But now if you include more information you get a more complete story.

Day 1 you perform 100 sets of 2 reps. Day 2 you perform 5 sets of 100 reps. Now we can see that on day 1 the person only lifted 200 reps whereas on day 2 the person lifted 500 reps. It is now very obvious that a higher volume of work occurred on day 2


What if we include more information?

Day 1 you perform 100 sets of 2 reps @ 90%MVC (max voluntary contraction). Day 2 you perform 5 sets of 100 reps @ 10%MVC. Now it gets foggy because we cannot compare the two workouts in terms of simply volume anymore because the intensities are different.

We have two options: Only compare like intensities when looking at volume of workout per session ( or even better movement). Or we use total weight lifted per session which can be miss leading at times. As long as you stick to one method you will be able to track your volume and ensure progress

[pebble]

I am right. Check any text book: http://books.google.com/. If we want to get very specific volume is more about amount of work per unit [in this case we are referring to per workout session, although it is better to do per time] because if you did 20 sets in a day vs 20 sets in an hour we have a profound difference in one’s relative training volume vs absolute training volume. To compound this problem without accounting for intensity we know nothing about the work done. Intensity is simply work done per unit. In this case we are talking per rep. This is measured by intensity (weight) used compared to max voluntary intensity (weight). Once again per unit of time is better because it then accounts for the velocity of the movement which can play a role in one’s intensity, but this becomes too complex and tedious for most.

Here is an example to illustrate the problem you are creating by not using all information available.

Day 1 you perform 100 sets. Day 2 you perform 5 sets. By your system of measure you performed less volume Day 2.

But now if you include more information you get a more complete story.

Day 1 you perform 100 sets of 2 reps. Day 2 you perform 5 sets of 100 reps. Now we can see that on day 1 the person only lifted 200 reps whereas on day 2 the person lifted 500 reps. It is now very obvious that a higher volume of work occurred on day 2


What if we include more information?

Day 1 you perform 100 sets of 2 reps @ 90%MVC (max voluntary contraction). Day 2 you perform 5 sets of 100 reps @ 10%MVC. Now it gets foggy because we cannot compare the two workouts in terms of simply volume anymore because the intensities are different.

We have two options: Only compare like intensities when looking at volume of workout per session ( or even better movement). Or we use total weight lifted per session which can be miss leading at times. As long as you stick to one method you will be able to track your volume and ensure progress

Dec or Baseline do you care to provide rational why you think your way is right while considering the example I have outlined.

[dec11]

I am right. Check any text book: http://books.google.com/. If we want to get very specific volume is more about amount of work per unit [in this case we are referring to per workout session, although it is better to do per time] because if you did 20 sets in a day vs 20 sets in an hour we have a profound difference in one’s relative training volume vs absolute training volume. To compound this problem without accounting for intensity we know nothing about the work done. Intensity is simply work done per unit. In this case we are talking per rep. This is measured by intensity (weight) used compared to max voluntary intensity (weight). Once again per unit of time is better because it then accounts for the velocity of the movement which can play a role in one’s intensity, but this becomes too complex and tedious for most.

Here is an example to illustrate the problem you are creating by not using all information available.

Day 1 you perform 100 sets. Day 2 you perform 5 sets. By your system of measure you performed less volume Day 2.

But now if you include more information you get a more complete story.

Day 1 you perform 100 sets of 2 reps. Day 2 you perform 5 sets of 100 reps. Now we can see that on day 1 the person only lifted 200 reps whereas on day 2 the person lifted 500 reps. It is now very obvious that a higher volume of work occurred on day 2


What if we include more information?

Day 1 you perform 100 sets of 2 reps @ 90%MVC (max voluntary contraction). Day 2 you perform 5 sets of 100 reps @ 10%MVC. Now it gets foggy because we cannot compare the two workouts in terms of simply volume anymore because the intensities are different.

We have two options: Only compare like intensities when looking at volume of workout per session ( or even better movement). Or we use total weight lifted per session which can be miss leading at times. As long as you stick to one method you will be able to track your volume and ensure progress

sums you up perfectly