Steroids for big guys.

[sizzlechest]

I keep seeing over and over again when someone more than, say 12% body fat, asks about a cycle they immediately are told not to take steroids and to lose weight first. What about someone like a powerlifter who wants the juice to get stronger and aren't so much worried about their physique? Powerlifters juice too, right? I understand that with higher body fat there is more aromatization of the androgens to estrogen but is there another reason bigger guys shouldn't juice? Would a starting cycle for a heavier powerlifter be the same as the basic 500 mg/week of testosterone+ hcg followed by swifto's pct, or do they need more help to keep estrogen down?

You should really condition for several months with no gear and then if you really have to or you think its will also make you feel better etc.. You can try a oral winstrol , anavar. The major risk is that you can get injured if your joints an tendons are not as strong s the muscle will get. But below 15% BF is usually the best results for AAS. Learning to eat right is the hardest part of the equation in my mind as people bodies are different.

[Doctapeppa]

You should really condition for several months with no gear and then if you really have to or you think its will also make you feel better etc.. You can try a oral winstrol , anavar. The major risk is that you can get injured if your joints an tendons are not as strong s the muscle will get. But below 15% BF is usually the best results for AAS. Learning to eat right is the hardest part of the equation in my mind as people bodies are different.

What do you mean by condition?

[sizzlechest]

What do you mean by condition?

I mean no maxing out or low reps at the beginning, Your strength will go up and you can get injured. Here is what I suggest based on seeing results in myself and others. Before starting to cycle do the following for at least 3 months.

1) get your diet right and learn how to eat. Learn portions , frequency, how to eat out etc.. Internet diet plans are sometimes confusing. Calculate your bodies caloric intake and cut it but 20-25 %, That’s what you need to cut. 40/40/20. 40% protein, 40 % good carbs , 20% good fats.

2) Do only two body parts a day and only two exercises for each body part. Times 15 reps times 5 sets each. Do 1 minute of step climber in between each set. ( or other high intensity cardio) Change the exercises around each week. Remember to increase the weight on each set slightly, you will start lighter to warm up the muscles. So your first set is lightest and your last one heaviest. For the last set pick a weight that you do at least 12-15 reps.

3) Hit all muscles in 3 days and add abs and cardio another 2 days. You should not have to spend more than 50 minutes or so in the Gym to do this.

This will drop you down in Fat and get you conditioned. If you must cycle after this start your first one mild, like Winny only or add some prop in there. Continue with the same prigram as your build strength in your joints, muscles and tendons.

[Doctapeppa]

I mean no maxing out or low reps at the beginning, Your strength will go up and you can get injured. Here is what I suggest based on seeing results in myself and others. Before starting to cycle do the following for at least 3 months.

1) get your diet right and learn how to eat. Learn portions , frequency, how to eat out etc.. Internet diet plans are sometimes confusing. Calculate your bodies caloric intake and cut it but 20-25 %, That’s what you need to cut. 40/40/20. 40% protein, 40 % good carbs , 20% good fats.

2) Do only two body parts a day and only two exercises for each body part. Times 15 reps times 5 sets each. Do 1 minute of step climber in between each set. ( or other high intensity cardio) Change the exercises around each week. Remember to increase the weight on each set slightly, you will start lighter to warm up the muscles. So your first set is lightest and your last one heaviest. For the last set pick a weight that you do at least 12-15 reps.

3) Hit all muscles in 3 days and add abs and cardio another 2 days. You should not have to spend more than 50 minutes or so in the Gym to do this.

This will drop you down in Fat and get you conditioned. If you must cycle after this start your first one mild, like Winny only or add some prop in there. Continue with the same prigram as your build strength in your joints, muscles and tendons.

Thanks, that is certainly good advice but that's not what this post is about. I am asking about powerlifters who want to juice to get STRONGER. Did you read my first post? Dropping calories and doing cardio means not lifting as much weight as possible and that could mean not reaching the goals they have for the next powerlifting meet.

[sizzlechest]

Thanks, that is certainly good advice but that's not what this post is about. I am asking about powerlifters who want to juice to get STRONGER. Did you read my first post? Dropping calories and doing cardio means not lifting as much weight as possible and that could mean not reaching the goals they have for the next powerlifting meet.

I guess I missed it. I thought you were trying to cut. I thought for big guys you meant fat. If its for powelifting then size is good and ofcourse AAS come into play. Halo seems to be popular. Just look at this guys size:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkSN3f-a3Ok

[dec11]

Thanks, that is certainly good advice but that's not what this post is about. I am asking about powerlifters who want to juice to get STRONGER. Did you read my first post? Dropping calories and doing cardio means not lifting as much weight as possible and that could mean not reaching the goals they have for the next powerlifting meet.

that guy does not give 'good advice', and dont listen.

[BG]

that guy does not give 'good advice', and dont listen.

I agree, I know guys that cut weight to get down weight classes and do very well.

[dec11]

You should really condition for several months with no gear and then if you really have to or you think its will also make you feel better etc.. You can try a oral winstrol , anavar. The major risk is that you can get injured if your joints an tendons are not as strong s the muscle will get. But below 15% BF is usually the best results for AAS. Learning to eat right is the hardest part of the equation in my mind as people bodies are different.

what is your reasoning behind this advice?