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    Quote Originally Posted by Brohim View Post
    What do you use to draw and shoot with? Slin pin's sub q or IM?
    Both. I mix it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Both. I mix it up.
    Interesting...

    Do you favor a specific protocol? Prior to this last draw, what was your history the previous couple of weeks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecdysone View Post
    Interesting...

    Do you favor a specific protocol? Prior to this last draw, what was your history the previous couple of weeks?
    Specific protocol, ecdysone? Not really.

    Usually Monday morning is SC as I have time to Sunday to draw up the pins. Thursdays are IM as I don't have a lot of time. But some weeks I will go all SC and then just decide to go IM for a few after that.

    No pattern...I like that.

    Got to tell ya though, and I now bass will back this up 100%; SC Test injections are virtually painless it's just impotant to remember to message the injection site with moderate pressure for up to 1 minute after the injection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Specific protocol, ecdysone? Not really.

    Usually Monday morning is SC as I have time to Sunday to draw up the pins. Thursdays are IM as I don't have a lot of time. But some weeks I will go all SC and then just decide to go IM for a few after that.

    No pattern...I like that.

    Got to tell ya though, and I now bass will back this up 100%; SC Test injections are virtually painless it's just impotant to remember to message the injection site with moderate pressure for up to 1 minute after the injection.
    funny you say you change it up, i was thinking the same thing, but since i am doing IM injections for the Glutathione I'll stick with SC for the test. but yea, nothing beets SC injections in terms of ease and pain.

    Question, what is the largest gauge needle they make for the slin syringe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bass View Post
    Question, what is the largest gauge needle they make for the slin syringe?
    Here's a good summary:
    http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/d_06_341.htm

    edit: noticed that the summary doesn't include the 30 gauge 8 mm (5/16") 1/2cc syringe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecdysone View Post
    thanks! great they make a 28g. which make the drawing easier!

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    how long are your slin pin's? And you go into the delt or thigh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brohim View Post
    how long are your slin pin's? And you go into the delt or thigh?
    5/16" belly fat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brohim View Post
    how long are your slin pin's? And you go into the delt or thigh?
    30 Gauge - 5/16"

    SC inject into fat pad. I pinch the skin in the love handle area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Both. I mix it up.
    Hey GD, do you do sub q injection in the lower abdominal area like an hcg injection? levels look great btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drmagic View Post
    Hey GD, do you do sub q injection in the lower abdominal area like an hcg injection? levels look great btw.
    Thanks Doc, means a lot coming from you.

    Yes, I inject in the lower abdominal area near the "love handle" area just like hCG. Have to really pinch the skin, however, as there's not too much fat anymore

    Question for you regarding my BW: Where do you like to see DHT levels? We tested DHT the first time and I was a little surprised that I was mid range given my Testosterone levels. I would think mid to upper levels would be ideal. Appreciate your thoughts Doc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Thanks Doc, means a lot coming from you.

    Yes, I inject in the lower abdominal area near the "love handle" area just like hCG. Have to really pinch the skin, however, as there's not too much fat anymore

    Question for you regarding my BW: Where do you like to see DHT levels? We tested DHT the first time and I was a little surprised that I was mid range given my Testosterone levels. I would think mid to upper levels would be ideal. Appreciate your thoughts Doc.

    gd
    To be honest, DHT is not something that was emphasized much in my training other than don't let it go too high or too low. Not like estrogen and test levels that seem to have a definite number to shoot for. It seems to be the forgotten hormone. I have patients that come in on prop$cia that have DHT levels in single digits and have no issues and others that are way above normal so I think there is more to this particual hormone than we are aware of. This is one of the topics I have tried to do a little more research on since coming to this forum, I'll keep you posted. I have a diagram of the hormone cascade that has lists of foods, supplements and medications that promote or limit conversions between hormones that I will try to post, maybe you'll see something on it that helps. If I can make it work I'll post it as a new thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drmagic View Post
    To be honest, DHT is not something that was emphasized much in my training other than don't let it go too high or too low. Not like estrogen and test levels that seem to have a definite number to shoot for. It seems to be the forgotten hormone. I have patients that come in on prop$cia that have DHT levels in single digits and have no issues and others that are way above normal so I think there is more to this particual hormone than we are aware of. This is one of the topics I have tried to do a little more research on since coming to this forum, I'll keep you posted. I have a diagram of the hormone cascade that has lists of foods, supplements and medications that promote or limit conversions between hormones that I will try to post, maybe you'll see something on it that helps. If I can make it work I'll post it as a new thread.
    First, thanks for your input Doc.

    I agree, it is the "forgotten hormone" and the one most critical for men. As you know, it is extremely powerful as it is three times more androgenic than testosterone and is the essence of all things male. I know it is principally responsible for libido; many men who "add in" DHT claim significant increases in sex drive.

    It also gets a bad rape as well; probably do to male pattern baldness at higher levels and lower DHT level may also help explain cause for ED symptoms.

    From my research, about 5% of Total Testosterone should be converting to DHT via 5-AR so it may be one way to measure optimal levels.

    Keep us posted Doc, this is one hormone I think we need to pay attention to much like we do Test, E2, Progesterone and Cortisol.

    gd
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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    First, thanks for your input Doc.

    I agree, it is the "forgotten hormone" and the one most critical for men. As you know, it is extremely powerful as it is three times more androgenic than testosterone and is the essence of all things male. I know it is principally responsible for libido; many men who "add in" DHT claim significant increases in sex drive.

    It also gets a bad rape as well; probably do to male pattern baldness at higher levels and lower DHT level may also help explain cause for ED symptoms.

    From my research, about 5% of Total Testosterone should be converting to DHT via 5-AR so it may be one way to measure optimal levels.

    Keep us posted Doc, this is one hormone I think we need to pay attention to much like we do Test, E2, Progesterone and Cortisol.

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