Too much hcg?

[Vettester]

why do you guys take hcg? is it just to keep size in the testes?

For me the size and natural production were factors. When I first started injections, the atrophy process started kicking in, and for some reason it caused a lot of pain just in my left testicle. Not sure why the left more so than the right, but that's what happened ... HCG alleviates that issue 100%. Actually, my left testicle is a good gauge to let me know when the HCG is getting weak, or if I've missed some HCG shots during a heavy travel schedule. If the HCG gets around the 50 day mark, the pain slowly starts creeping in ... Time to mix up the new stuff.

Lastly, the comparison of sex while on HCG is night and day!!! Without it, the climax is a one squirt wonder. On it, 5,6,7 ... Better than anything before! Who can say no to that?

[OutLaw8.5]

For me the size and natural production were factors. When I first started injections, the atrophy process started kicking in, and for some reason it caused a lot of pain just in my left testicle. Not sure why the left more so than the right, but that's what happened ... HCG alleviates that issue 100%. Actually, my left testicle is a good gauge to let me know when the HCG is getting weak, or if I've missed some HCG shots during a heavy travel schedule. If the HCG gets around the 50 day mark, the pain slowly starts creeping in ... Time to mix up the new stuff.

Lastly, the comparison of sex while on HCG is night and day!!! Without it, the climax is a one squirt wonder. On it, 5,6,7 ... Better than anything before! Who can say no to that?

THat last part in itself worth it's weight in gold! NIce volume increase as well!

[swllce]

I follow the crisler protocol 250 iu hcg 2x week.For me it is the most important addition to my trt .
Without it sex drive ,well being,load size is cut in half.
I take mine on day before Test C shot and on the day of my test c shot,so i only have to pin 2 days aweek instead of 3 like with the crisler protocol.
Anything over 500iu a week is a waste of good hcg.My 2cents

[ecdysone]

so i only have to pin 2 days aweek instead of 3 like with the crisler protocol.

If I understand the Dr. John (although do not agree with it), isn't he saying 2x per week? (test 1X per week?)

[OutLaw8.5]

If I understand the Dr. John (although do not agree with it), isn't he saying 2x per week? (test 1X per week?)

Care to elaborate? Always like to view things from the other side of the fence

[steroid.com 1]

Care to elaborate? Always like to view things from the other side of the fence

Crisler is looking at things from both sides of the fence.

One: How can I keep a man on a weekly protocol that he will benefit from and stick with and that is not complicated considering life style. Thus, hCG two and one day before Test injection followed by AI...simple.

Two: The best protocols are where we can mimic our body's own rhythms. If a man was willing to take small doses of Test, hCG and AI everyday it would be ideal! But in the real world (for most, not all) it's just impractical. So the compromise is Crisler's protocol which seems to stick with a lot of men.

For diligent guys like me, I can go more granular and almost go day to day.

Need to think of the masses when you are a Physician.

[ecdysone]

Although I agree with what gd said, I was just thinking in terms of the hormones:

Crisler's idea is to avoid "over peaking" the T levels by timing the HCG better.

First, I'm not convinced this is necessarily bad - the sublingual studies show T peaks over 2000 ng/dL with good effects.

Second, the half-life of HCG is something around 30-48 hours depending on who you believe (the studies are all over the place) so there's no need to space the injections so closely together.

Not that I advocate high doses of HCG, but his claim that it causes "Leydig cell desentization to LH" is not true.

Obviously, he is the experienced Dr. and I might know jack, but I think there's room for other opinions.

[swllce]

Yes he says to pin hcg 2 days before and on the day before your testosterone shot.That means poking yourself on 3 days of the week.
I changed it so i won't have to run to the medicine cabinet all the time.Works for me.

If I understand the Dr. John (although do not agree with it), isn't he saying 2x per week? (test 1X per week?)

[dfwo]

THat last part in itself worth it's weight in gold! NIce volume increase as well!

wow, I've never heard that before.

[Vettester]

wow, I've never heard that before.

It's a fact ... At least for me, and I'm just a typical secondary guy with a healthy sack!

[dec11]

For me the size and natural production were factors. When I first started injections, the atrophy process started kicking in, and for some reason it caused a lot of pain just in my left testicle. Not sure why the left more so than the right, but that's what happened ... HCG alleviates that issue 100%. Actually, my left testicle is a good gauge to let me know when the HCG is getting weak, or if I've missed some HCG shots during a heavy travel schedule. If the HCG gets around the 50 day mark, the pain slowly starts creeping in ... Time to mix up the new stuff.

Lastly, the comparison of sex while on HCG is night and day!!! Without it, the climax is a one squirt wonder. On it, 5,6,7 ... Better than anything before! Who can say no to that?

mine have been raisins for 2yrs now lol. i might enquire about it also on my trt appoint next month. i have used hcg before on cycles, just wondered what its purpose was for trt patients.