Just started cycle and appetite disappeared

[Reefers]

I've researched for months before I started my first cycle on saturday.

Here's the cycle:
Week 1-4 Dbol 20mg/day split
Week 1-10 Test E 250mg E3.5D
PCT: Nolva 20/20/10/10 and will maybe add aromasin too

Anyways, I started the Test E on saturday, and the dbol on Monday. Monday and yesterday I was extremely tired all the time, and lost my appetite. I've been reading around and said dbol can do that to some people. Today I did not take the dbol but my appetite still suffers. I don't want to continue on a substance that will kill my appetite.

-If I stop, will I be minorly shut down until the test kicks in at week 4 or 5? My balls started to ache at the end of the second day of dbol (last night) which may be my natural test starting to shut down already.

-Should I continue the dbol hoping the effect reverses? I'm just worried that if I dont eat enough I'm going to bloat and wont make any real gains.

I will also order some GHRP-6 for the appetite.

Thanks

[gearbox]

stats please?

[Reefers]

6'3" 179 very little bodyfat

[BBrian]

It may help you to do an extensive search for appetite stimulates and incorporate those into your diet.

[DanB]

Drop the dbol,it simply dosnt agree with some people

[BigGuy90]

Yeah you may want to drop the dbol as it seems to suppress the appetites in people. I've used it and I was eating like an animal while I was on it, it actually made me hungrier throughout the day

[BBrian]

Yeah you may want to drop the dbol as it seems to suppress the appetites in people. I've used it and I was eating like an animal while I was on it, it actually made me hungrier throughout the day

Indeed, similarly I'm taking Anadrol and my appetite has never been this strong, although it has been reported in others that it decreases theirs.

[Reefers]

It may help you to do an extensive search for appetite stimulates and incorporate those into your diet.

Thanks guys. I think I'm going to try to do a high intensity run 10 mins every day. Enough to stimulate the appetite but short enough to not burn too many calories.


BBrian do you use anything you recommend? I know mirtazapine gives the munchies 24/7, but at a high cost - constant lethargy. GHRP-6 looks promising and I think I'm going to try that. The only one I can think of is weed and it just doesnt work like that for me anymore. I just take a nap instead of eating.

[moseley2004]

I had the same effect with the dbol dropped it for the cycle. Got my body used to eating flat out for months. Hit dbol 2nd cycle and it didn't do anything to my appetite

[BBrian]

Golden Seal
Ginseng
Alfalfa
Culantro (not to be confused with cilantro)
Dandelion
Garlic
Cranberries or Cranberry Juice
Thiamine
Saw Palmetto
Most Alcohols - Sparing amounts of wine would be my suggestion. Highly effective.
Yogurt

Eating smaller meals more frequently, which is of course a guideline for building mass already, works in itself to increase the appetite by increasing metabolism. Sometimes getting to that point, however, requires some discipline up front. There are also natural herb combinations marketed as appetite stimulants, which include many of the above mentioned ingredients, as shopping for each of them individually can prove quite frustrating.

[Reefers]

Golden Seal
Ginseng
Alfalfa
Culantro (not to be confused with cilantro)
Dandelion
Garlic
Cranberries or Cranberry Juice
Thiamine
Saw Palmetto
Most Alcohols - Sparing amounts of wine would be my suggestion. Highly effective.
Yogurt

Eating smaller meals more frequently, which is of course a guideline for building mass already, works in itself to increase the appetite by increasing metabolism. Sometimes getting to that point, however, requires some discipline up front. There are also natural herb combinations marketed as appetite stimulants, which include many of the above mentioned ingredients, as shopping for each of them individually can prove quite frustrating.

Thanks a lot, I will look into the above. You say alcohol. Would one glass of red wine per day be alright on a cycle? I'm not sure what you're suggesting but I agree with you that it would work.

Also, now that I'm not doing the dbol, and test e doesnt "kick in" until week 5 or so, should I get a few ampules extra to boost the cycle to 12 weeks or is it somewhat trivial?

Why doesnt it kick in until 5 weeks, but only runs 2 weeks extra after the last pin? Doesn't really add up to me.

[BBrian]

Yes, you nailed that one on the head with alcohol. I've even heard that Port wine is better for appetite.

As for the five week issue, five weeks is probably fairly conservative. Enanthate is such a slow acting ester that it takes quite a bit of time for the shots to "stack" on top of each other, for lack of a better phrase, to a point where you have a high enough amount of test in your bloodstream to really take notice of. I personally would expect to feel the full affect by week three or four, depending of course on how much test has been injected up to that point (the more the faster to some degree). But no, it certainly isn't trivial. The more testosterone you take, the stronger its affect. Most people state that after eight weeks of gaining from testosterone, they notice a crucial point in the cycle at which their gains come to a halt. For this reason experienced users do one of three things; one, they cycle for only eight weeks. Two, they increase their test dose at this point. Or three, they just continue their cycle at the same doses and enjoy the heightened anabolic state. I personally prefer 12 - 14 week cycles that consists of different amounts of test throughout the cycle, basically in three different phases, where each phase contains different amounts, followed by an aggressive PCT. I've run approximately 6 cycles now and feel very comfortable experimenting with new approaches. So far I've had zero problems with my testes' function after PCT.

With your situation of removing the Dbol, you of course understand that this means you are lessening the amount of test you are introducing into this cycle. You could extend the cycle two weeks, or you could obtain some more test and increase the amount you inject during weeks 3-8, then taper back down to 500mg during weeks 9-10, and even taper down further with 250mg per week for weeks 11 & 12. I don't want to confuse you, but the possibilities are endless and for me, it's in large a matter of experimenting with minor changes. Like I said, I have three phases that contain different amounts of test. I have to say, though, that I would personally be very discouraged if I had to remove the Dbol or any other compound that renders fast results early on, but I've always had the convenience of getting prop and usually suspension as well.

[Razor]

Order "Black hole" it stimulates appetite and helps you digest all the crap you just ate.

[Times Roman]

Indeed, similarly I'm taking Anadrol and my appetite has never been this strong, although it has been reported in others that it decreases theirs.

what dose?
and have you began to notice yet that it makes you sleepy and lethargic? it does me. to combat this, I usually dose my drol right after lunch

[alexISthrowed]

At 100mg ed anadrol I had 0 appetite, none whatsoever! I still ate my 5000 calories like a man. Tough it out if you can and eat foods that are easy to get down quick. Ground beef and rice with a few whole eggs is a great one.

[DIESELPOWER127]

What are you guys using with your Anadrol cycle? are you stacking with Test? or using Anadrol only with a PCT such as Nolva?

[alexISthrowed]

What are you guys using with your Anadrol cycle? are you stacking with Test? or using Anadrol only with a PCT such as Nolva?

Anadrol only would be a horrible idea. I was running test mast and drol. Test is always your base no matter what.

[DIESELPOWER127]

Good info. Thanks

[tomt45]

Your pct looks kinda week. If I were you I would do clomid 100/50/50/50 and nolva 40/20/20/20

[BBrian]

what dose?
and have you began to notice yet that it makes you sleepy and lethargic? it does me. to combat this, I usually dose my drol right after lunch

I've been taking 50mg per day, but twice now I have increased it to 75mg. Either way, Anadrol has done wonders for my appetite. The Anadrol profile on this site describes how taking too much of it has shown to have the opposite affect, so I'm not surprised that Alex is having problems at the 100mg mark. And no, I definitely have not had any problems with sleepiness or lethargy, quite the opposite. I'm also taking different esters of test and deca, along with Arimidex for bloating.

Also of note, on days that I perform cardio, my appetite increases so much that it is literally impossible to satisfy my hunger for the next six hours. Unfreakingbelievable.

[BBrian]

What are you guys using with your Anadrol cycle? are you stacking with Test? or using Anadrol only with a PCT such as Nolva?

Stacking with test is a must. I'm stacking test and deca with Anadrol.

[DIESELPOWER127]

How about a base of Test with the Anadrol and a PCT afterwords. looking at about a 4-6 week cycle with the Anadrol.

[BBrian]

How about a base of Test with the Anadrol and a PCT afterwords. looking at about a 4-6 week cycle with the Anadrol.

You would do good to research what effective Anadrol cycles look like. 4-6 weeks of Anadrol is a good period of time for the Anadrol, but if you want to keep your gains you're going to need to continue with a test cycle for another 8-6 weeks, respectively.

[DIESELPOWER127]

You would do good to research what effective Anadrol cycles look like. 4-6 weeks of Anadrol is a good period of time for the Anadrol, but if you want to keep your gains you're going to need to continue with a test cycle for another 8-6 weeks, respectively.

Alright that`s what I was planning on. Now for a PCT such as Nolva i would wait until the test cycle is finished correct?

[BBrian]

Alright that`s what I was planning on. Now for a PCT such as Nolva i would wait until the test cycle is finished correct?

Yes, you want to ensure that you give yourself enough time for the last injection to clear your body before beginning PCT.

[DIESELPOWER127]

Yes, you want to ensure that you give yourself enough time for the last injection to clear your body before beginning PCT.

Alright great. Have you had any negative side effects with the Anadrol in your experience?

[DIESELPOWER127]

Yes, you want to ensure that you give yourself enough time for the last injection to clear your body before beginning PCT.

Alright great. Have you had any negative side effects with the Anadrol in your experience?

[BBrian]

Alright great. Have you had any negative side effects with the Anadrol in your experience?

I'm only into my third week of taking Anadrol for the first time, but without a doubt Anadrol has raised my blood pressure more than anything else I have taken. It's also well documented that Anadrol is very toxic in the liver. Because of this I take a good amount of natural supplements to aid in combating blood pressure and hepatoxicity. That being said, Anadrol has also increased my size and appetite more than anything else I've experimented with, and I would certainly be inclined to use it again.

[gixxerboy1]

i would drop the d-bol and leave the test as is

[DIESELPOWER127]

I'm only into my third week of taking Anadrol for the first time, but without a doubt Anadrol has raised my blood pressure more than anything else I have taken. It's also well documented that Anadrol is very toxic in the liver. Because of this I take a good amount of natural supplements to aid in combating blood pressure and hepatoxicity. That being said, Anadrol has also increased my size and appetite more than anything else I've experimented with, and I would certainly be inclined to use it again.

Thanks man. Good info here.

[DIESELPOWER127]

Have you guys heard of Thai-50 i guess a legal substitute for Anadrol 50? any thoughts on this?

[BBrian]

Thanks man. Good info here.

Something I forgot to mention that I've been told is a side affect of Anadrol, I started getting terrible back pumps. The muscles in my lower back tighten up after putting any stress on it and the pain was excruciating. It was recommended that I use Taurine, which proved to be very beneficial in combating these pumps. So far I've been taking 1k mg before workouts and 1k mg during.

[DIESELPOWER127]

Alright thanks. I`m was going to start the Anadrol/Thai-50 but it looks like I better wait and find some test and nolva first. I`ll also keep the Taurine in mind.

[Whoady]

Reefers lol... your name is the solution. I smoke and eat like a horse.

[alexISthrowed]

Reefers lol... your name is the solution. I smoke and eat like a horse.

No rec drug talk man or else I'm sure this would have already been mentioned.

[jimmyinkedup]

Have you guys heard of Thai-50 i guess a legal substitute for Anadrol 50? any thoughts on this?

No offense intended but how about starting your own thread?
Simply out of respect to the original poster , his questions and his concerns.

[testfeind123]

I've researched for months before I started my first cycle on saturday.

Here's the cycle:
Week 1-4 Dbol 20mg/day split
Week 1-10 Test E 250mg E3.5D
PCT: Nolva 20/20/10/10 and will maybe add aromasin too

Anyways, I started the Test E on saturday, and the dbol on Monday. Monday and yesterday I was extremely tired all the time, and lost my appetite. I've been reading around and said dbol can do that to some people. Today I did not take the dbol but my appetite still suffers. I don't want to continue on a substance that will kill my appetite.

-If I stop, will I be minorly shut down until the test kicks in at week 4 or 5? My balls started to ache at the end of the second day of dbol (last night) which may be my natural test starting to shut down already.

-Should I continue the dbol hoping the effect reverses? I'm just worried that if I dont eat enough I'm going to bloat and wont make any real gains.

I will also order some GHRP-6 for the appetite.

Thanks

yu cud alwayss try some herbs o natural like say marijuana.lol

[jimmyinkedup]

yu cud alwayss try some herbs o natural like say marijuana.lol

Reefers lol... your name is the solution. I smoke and eat like a horse.

Lets end this now - no recreational drug talk.
I have linked to the rules for both of your convenience - perhaps a quick read is in order.
Thank You
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...d-WARNINGS!!!&

[Whoady]

Weed is legal in my state but roids aren't... haha hey rules are rules i guess

[gixxerboy1]

Weed is legal in my state but roids aren't... haha hey rules are rules i guess

you were just told not to discuss rec drugs. But you had to get another comment in? If you dont like the rules then you dont need to stay