Stupid question but curious?

[Simon1972]

If someone didn't want to get big but just wanted to get decent size and stay that size what would be the harm in doing 2-3 cycles? I looked up a bit about endo system and I don't fully understand, if it's done growing around 25, and gear causes my testosterone to shut down, won't I be just as F**ked if it shut down at a younger age? I don't know how testosterone ranks, but let's say a peak is around 800? On gear how high does that number go? And what if someone used minimal amount (small doses) and upped that number by just 200 lets say?

your endocrine system isnt developed yet, did you read gonzo's post? under 25 your body cant handle it - after 25 it can. yes you will shut down at both ages, but you can recover generally well after 25. below 25 you are running a risk of permanant damage.

dont do it until after 25 at least- considering your test levels are peaking at 25- you will get huge just by eating and working out- gains will be permanent- only consider roids once you reach an old age or have reached your natural maximum limit- its too risky. if you still are going to anyway- make sure you have all your ancillaries, PCT etc in place before you buy any juice. or you will indeed damage your body for life.

[dylan111557]

your endocrine system isnt developed yet, did you read gonzo's post? under 25 your body cant handle it - after 25 it can. yes you will shut down at both ages, but you can recover generally well after 25. below 25 you are running a risk of permanant damage.

dont do it until after 25 at least- considering your test levels are peaking at 25- you will get huge just by eating and working out- gains will be permanent- only consider roids once you reach an old age or have reached your natural maximum limit- its too risky. if you still are going to anyway- make sure you have all your ancillaries, PCT etc in place before you buy any juice. or you will indeed damage your body for life.

So is shutting down based on total RANDOMNESS? Also if it starts to decline at 25, wouldn't that mean age 24 is a higher testosterone level than age 20? Are these conditions shutting down/erectile disfunction/infertile etc... all based on randomness, or doing a cycle wrong?

[Simon1972]

So is shutting down based on total RANDOMNESS? Also if it starts to decline at 25, wouldn't that mean age 24 is a higher testosterone level than age 20? Are these conditions shutting down/erectile disfunction/infertile etc... all based on randomness, or doing a cycle wrong?

seriously??? did you read my post? dont do steroids until your endocrine system is matured.
you are 18- that gives you 7 years to research, join a gym and start eating.
1. your endocrine system is imature- it cant handle steroids without melting down-
2. your test levels will shut down- your balls need to mature so they can recover after PCT.

measure your balls and tell us what size they are currently.

[dylan111557]

seriously??? did you read my post? dont do steroids until your endocrine system is matured.
you are 18- that gives you 7 years to research, join a gym and start eating.
1. your endocrine system is imature- it cant handle steroids without melting down-
2. your test levels will shut down- your balls need to mature so they can recover after PCT.

measure your balls and tell us what size they are currently.

Measure my balls? Want me to take pic and send you? want me to shave them first? maybe do a nice little design for you? And your saying your test levels will shut down.. so this is 100% no matter what, everyone under 25 got to go on trt i guess right?

[Simon1972]

Measure my balls? Want me to take pic and send you? want me to shave them first? maybe do a nice little design for you? And your saying your test levels will shut down.. so this is 100% no matter what, everyone under 25 got to go on trt i guess right?

yes a picture would be nice, thanks for offering.

yes 100% your test levels will drop off to Zero and your balls will shrink- you need pct to bring them back to size and producing test- this takes months to recover from - thats why you need PCT. when you are 18 and underdeveloped- chances are you will have irreversable effects on your balls- and you might have to go on trt...its not a game- this is risky and you need a doctor to guide you through this.

think about this- i dont know you- i dont care about you and how much money you throw away chasing steroids. i could save myself the greif and say "yes" take steroids you'll be fine,- but im not saying that.

take the time , wait until you are 25 and do this right. dont mess yourself up for what you think is a quick fix.

[dylan111557]

So you are saying at an underdeveloped age, there is a chance that PCT does not recover my balls? Do you know statistically how high the chance is?

[gixxerboy1]

So you are saying at an underdeveloped age, there is a chance that PCT does not recover my balls? Do you know statistically how high the chance is?

no. everyone is different. it depends on what you run, how long you run it at what dosages. There are to many variables to give statistics.

[gixxerboy1]

Measure my balls? Want me to take pic and send you? want me to shave them first? maybe do a nice little design for you? And your saying your test levels will shut down.. so this is 100% no matter what, everyone under 25 got to go on trt i guess right?

your right you dont understand and you are arguing with people who do understand
it has nothing to do with what your testosterone levels are at
Once you start injecting hormones your body is going to stop producing them. if your 19 , 22, or 30 it doesnt matter
At 22 your system isnt fully developed. So shutting it down an undeveloped system can damage it. And it may not start producing normal levels of hormones again