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    Hey big Ron I just wanted to give a big thank you for all your help through questions you answered specifically for me and ones that I read through other peoples questions. Thanks to you and fireguy and my dad/coach I was able to win first place in at the Charlotte cup in junior men's bodybuilding and take the overall! It far exceeded my expectations and ended up canceling my plans to do the palmetto cup this weekend because I would have to move into men's open light heavies already I had planned to use the first show as a learning experience and do the juniors again this week. Without your sound advice on how to handle aas on my first cycle last year and my cut for the show this year I don't feel I would have done this well. So again I just want to give you a big thanks and if your ever around the Charlotte area me and my boy slim shady owe you a dinner for all your help! Been trying to convince him to compete in a few months no luck so far. Here's a pic just for the hell of it after prejudging let me know if you see any specific weak points I should focus on big Ron.

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    I've heard a lot of talk lately about guy's running Test at way lower doses than Tren, saying let the Tren do the work. They say the Test uses up all the receptor sites and it wastes the Tren. I've always used more test ( like say a gram) compared to 525-700 Tren. What are your thoughts on this? I don't suffer from sides (nothing I can't handle) from the Tren and I want to get the most out of it, but if this theory is a myth I'd just as soon leave the Test higher. Thanks Ron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99 View Post
    I've heard a lot of talk lately about guy's running Test at way lower doses than Tren, saying let the Tren do the work. They say the Test uses up all the receptor sites and it wastes the Tren. I've always used more test ( like say a gram) compared to 525-700 Tren. What are your thoughts on this? I don't suffer from sides (nothing I can't handle) from the Tren and I want to get the most out of it, but if this theory is a myth I'd just as soon leave the Test higher. Thanks Ron.
    I don't know about the receptor part but as for the sides it helped me greatly. I got the trensomnia and anxiety running 500mg Test and 200mg Tren. Dropped the Test to 250 and the sides are gone! Still losing fat like crazy and getting stronger. I am slowly upping the Tren to 400mg, at 300 right now and the sides are still not there. I am seeing some remarkable changes.

    I'd also like to see Ron's answer to your question but I think running your Test lower is definitely a viable option for people that get the sides with Tren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99 View Post
    I've heard a lot of talk lately about guy's running Test at way lower doses than Tren, saying let the Tren do the work. They say the Test would use up all the receptor sites and it wastes the Tren. Test does not use up all the receptor sites. I don't know who comes up with some of these unfounded theories!? Pro-bodybuilders use massive amounts of both tren and test at the same time along with d-bol and/or anadrol. FOR EXAMPLE: 2 GRAMS OF TEST WEEKLY WILL NOT PROVIDE YOU WITH THE LEAN GAINS THAT ARE DERIVED FROM USING 1 GRAM OF TEST AND 500 mgs OF TREN. 2 GRAMS OF TEST WEEKLY WILL NOT GIVE YOU THE SAME STRENGTH GAINS AS 1 GRAM OF TEST AND 50 MGS OF D-BOL DAILY. DID YOU CATCH THAT? IT'S BECAUSE DIFFERENT STEROIDS ALLOW INDIVIDUALS TO ACHIEVE VARIED RESULTS WITH SPECIFIC COMPOUNDS. I've always used more test ( like say a gram) compared to 525-700 Tren. What are your thoughts on this? I THINK THE WAY YOU HAVE BEEN DOING IT IS BEST BECAUSE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF LEGIT TREN CAUSES TOO MANY SIDE EFFECTS FOR MOST PEOPLE. HOWEVER, YOU CAN MAKE LEAN GAINS WITH LESS BLOAT USING FAIRLY HIGH DOSAGES OF TREN AND JUST A LITLE TEST (250 MGS WEEKLY) TO SUPPORT LIBIDO. SOMETIMES THE BLOAT FROM TEST CAUSES SERIOUS LETHARGICNESS AND USING A LESSER DOSE WITH HIGHER AMOUNTS OF TREN CAN BE GOOD IN THESE SITUATIONS. BUT HIGHER DOSAGES OF BOTH PRODUCES THE MOST GAINS AND THE MOST SIDE EFFECTS, JUST LIKE HIGHER DOSAGES OF TEST AND D-BOL. SOME HAVE TO REDUCE TEST DOSAGES WHILE ON D-BOL TO BE ABE TO TOLERATE THE SIDE EFFECTS OF BOTH DRUGS COMBINED. I don't suffer from sides (nothing I can't handle) from the Tren and I want to get the most out of it, but if this theory is a myth I'd just as soon leave the Test higher. It's a myth and keep the test higher unless on a major cutting cycle or you want to avoid water retention Thanks Ron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lift to live View Post
    hey big ron i just wanted to give a big thank you for all your help through questions you answered specifically for me and ones that i read through other peoples questions. Thanks to you and fireguy and my dad/coach i was able to win first place in at the charlotte cup in junior men's bodybuilding and take the overall!congradulatons! It far exceeded my expectations and ended up canceling my plans to do the palmetto cup this weekend because i would have to move into men's open light heavies already i had planned to use the first show as a learning experience and do the juniors again this week. lh is definetly some serious competition. I'll be at the s.c. Palmetto cup this weekend. I am training a 50 year old female for her first bb show and have another girl doing jr. Nationals in 2 weeks at charleston sc. To try and get a pro card. Without your sound advice on how to handle aas on my first cycle last year and my cut for the show this year i don't feel i would have done this well. So again i just want to give you a big thanks and if your ever around the charlotte area me and my boy slim shady owe you a dinner for all your help! Been trying to convince him to compete in a few months no luck so far. Here's a pic just for the hell of it after prejudging let me know if you see any specific weak points i should focus on big ron. YOUR PICTURE LOOKS GREAT TOO ME. I WOULD JUST CONTINUE PUTTING ON MORE OVERALL MASS AND DIET DOWN LIKE YOU DID THIS PAST TIME.
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