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  1. #1
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    Only thing PCT will allow you to keep is water weight. Not muscle

    1 cc of test is so much more than your body ever makes naturally.

    So how can you keep the gains on so much lower test?

    Look at Larry Scott and Sergio oliva

    They never did PCT and doing great in their late 70s

    Everyone you know/see in and on magazines do not PCT.

    Steroids do not kill people.

    Cigarettes and alcohol do.
    Narcotics
    Pain killers

    Not steroids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaynESTER View Post
    Only thing PCT will allow you to keep is water weight. Not muscle

    1 cc of test is so much more than your body ever makes naturally.

    So how can you keep the gains on so much lower test?

    Look at Larry Scott and Sergio oliva

    They never did PCT and doing great in their late 70s

    Everyone you know/see in and on magazines do not PCT.

    Steroids do not kill people.

    Cigarettes and alcohol do.
    Narcotics
    Pain killers

    Not steroids.
    stop giving advice. your 21. You even said your just getting into understanding everything. You can hold muscle with pct. What your posting can be dangerous.
    you psoted guys in there 70's who are fine.
    What about my friend art atwood who dropped dead last year.
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    stop giving advice. your 21. You even said your just getting into understanding everything. You can hold muscle with pct. What your posting can be dangerous.
    you psoted guys in there 70's who are fine.
    What about my friend art atwood who dropped dead last year.
    your friend did not drop dead from a little test, please go.

    you can only hold muscle after PCT if you didn't reach your natty limit... in which case you won't even look like you cycled.

  4. #4
    Looks like paynESTER caused such a stir we lost focus haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IEatSteroidsMmmm View Post
    your friend did not drop dead from a little test, please go.

    you can only hold muscle after PCT if you didn't reach your natty limit... in which case you won't even look like you cycled.
    and most members havent reached there natural limit. Or arent looking to be on trt for life.

    no it wasnt a little test, but if you dont think running high doses for years has an effect on your health you have no clue.

    and im sure you all know more about it. What do i know i only knew him
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    and most members havent reached there natural limit. Or arent looking to be on trt for life.

    no it wasnt a little test, but if you dont think running high doses for years has an effect on your health you have no clue.

    and im sure you all know more about it. What do i know i only knew him
    of course it has an effect on your health, i never said it didn't, but it takes a LOT of anabolics and very little proactivity on your part to kill yourself with gear (assuming gear was all he was taking.. and with upper level BB that's never the case) and you're making it seem like these kids are going to mess themselves up if they stay on a little test between cycles rather than coming off completely. i have no problem admitting it isn't good for you, but it's blown SO FAR out of proportion here that it's actually depressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IEatSteroidsMmmm View Post
    of course it has an effect on your health, i never said it didn't, but it takes a LOT of anabolics and very little proactivity on your part to kill yourself with gear (assuming gear was all he was taking.. and with upper level BB that's never the case) and you're making it seem like these kids are going to mess themselves up if they stay on a little test between cycles rather than coming off completely. i have no problem admitting it isn't good for you, but it's blown SO FAR out of proportion here that it's actually depressing.
    will staying on a little test between cycles kill them? No. But they probably wont recover when they want to stop. So everyone doesnt want to be on for life. So there is consequences to it
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

  8. #8
    I can't afford nor do I want to to be "on" 365 days a year lol. So besides my PCT, what else will help me hold on to gains?

  9. #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaynESTER View Post
    Only thing PCT will allow you to keep is water weight. Not muscle

    1 cc of test is so much more than your body ever makes naturally.

    So how can you keep the gains on so much lower test?

    Look at Larry Scott and Sergio oliva

    They never did PCT and doing great in their late 70s

    Everyone you know/see in and on magazines do not PCT.

    Steroids do not kill people.

    Cigarettes and alcohol do.
    Narcotics
    Pain killers

    Not steroids.
    Now you are preaching NO PCT?
    Tick, tick, tick...

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