any advice welcome :)

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Mate,
Most people, if not all people, experience their best gains in the gym in the first year. Increases in strength can easily go up 50% the first 6 months of initial training. Yours is not different! After that, it get's slow. This is where most newbs really get frustrated and want a short cut. I've seen it hundreds of times.

Next.
Until you reach your mid twenties when your hormonal system is fully developed/mature, taking steroids now will increase the risk of problems down the road, as compared to the risk you'd be taking if you wait a few years when in your mid twenties. True, there will still be a risk of cycling after your mid twenties, but not as great compared to now.

You can minimize risk by implementing a robust PCT, and an AI during cycle. But even then, you will still be exposed to risk.

Next.
Do you know what these risks are? How about ED (erictile disfunction), like trying to make love to your woman, and all you've got to offer is a limp noodle?? or how about low libido? this is where your woman wants to make love to you, and you are more interested in watching NASCAR. Or how about depression? there are a variety of sides you would be putting yourself at risk of getting.

Not trying to scare you.

But if your excuse to using aas is you want to be in a strong man contest, I'd think before considering, you'd have numbers that wouuld suggest you'd even have a remote chance of being competitive. But right now, you're just a big boy with only 8 months in the gym with very average numbers.

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Mate,
Most people, if not all people, experience their best gains in the gym in the first year. Increases in strength can easily go up 50% the first 6 months of initial training. Yours is not different! After that, it get's slow. This is where most newbs really get frustrated and want a short cut. I've seen it hundreds of times.

Next.
Until you reach your mid twenties when your hormonal system is fully developed/mature, taking steroids now will increase the risk of problems down the road, as compared to the risk you'd be taking if you wait a few years when in your mid twenties. True, there will still be a risk of cycling after your mid twenties, but not as great compared to now.

You can minimize risk by implementing a robust PCT, and an AI during cycle. But even then, you will still be exposed to risk.

Next.
Do you know what these risks are? How about ED (erictile disfunction), like trying to make love to your woman, and all you've got to offer is a limp noodle?? or how about low libido? this is where your woman wants to make love to you, and you are more interested in watching NASCAR. Or how about depression? there are a variety of sides you would be putting yourself at risk of getting.

Not trying to scare you.

But if your excuse to using aas is you want to be in a strong man contest, I'd think before considering, you'd have numbers that wouuld suggest you'd even have a remote chance of being competitive. But right now, you're just a big boy with only 8 months in the gym with very average numbers.

yeh i am going to train longer before i do i just dont think im going to wait until im 25. i do respect what everyone has to say and yes i should listen but 25 is a long time away and i just dont know :/
all strongmen are on some form of aas anyway arnt they?