mmmmm theres no pinting putting a thread up and when you get reviews thinking ur 100 percent right because bud your not...... i gained a massive amount after my first cycle and that was over 10 years ago and lost nothing not a bean it also took me about 3 years of hardly training to notice definition change so i jumped back on full time and done a cycle gain another stone and stopped again and never lost that either...?

im not saying your completely wrong but maybe your body doesnt hold as easyer than others like mine does i can easerly not cycle and keep my weight due to my lifestyle but if i hit 15 stone i will dropp to 14.6 after cycle because thats where my body like to be so it proves your body doesnt want all that extra over weight ie muscle it likes you 20 lbs lower if you keep pushing it to do what it doesnt want to do youll then after a good period of time start getting major problems.

people just forget its just a drug nothing else if your body doesnt want to push past a certain limit it wont ull just get a load of bad sides and a heart attack its all down to this KNOW YOUR LIMITS like for me to hit 18 stone id have to take massive amounts of gear and eat shit loads everyday even off cycle and itll be every hour not 3 !!!! fck that im happy now fluctuating up from 14 to 16 and back again as i still get lean gains and a better shaped look to my body and not having ago but you dont drop any calories after you cycle especialy during pct you should know this i dont drop till 6 weeks after pct then a good cut just saying, and i ve also been training over 15 years as well started when i was 14 years old but was never spose to be touching 14-15-16 as all my family are very skinny lean people so YOU DONT LOSE ALL YOUR GAINS WHEN OFF its upto your body and your lifestyle but you have messed up by dropping 1000 calories thats alot and that was your mistake buddy!