Lunk1.. That's understandable and I thank you for your honesty, coz yeah this is a big learning curve for me. The main reason I'm now considering this is because I train hard for 5 consecutive days a week and I've got to the point where being all natural isn't making me happy anymore, I want to be bigger, stronger etc. I've tied asking many people but they ain't sure so that's why I've joined this site.. Personally from you! What would you recommend me to take on a 1st course, to introduce my body to all this, obvious not a long course, just a short 1 to start me off. Thanks again for the info so far

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