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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    Peronally from me...I do want to help and will help but I can not feel good about myself if I give you any advise on steroids at your age. It would be like me telling someone who wants to shoot themselves hoe to pull the trigger.

    I will however help you reach your goals natural and help you learn what you need to tweak to keep gaining without steroids, while you stick around and become more educated and let your body develop so that you are truely ready to make the best when the time comes,

    I mean really...your youngman..whats the hurry? The last thing you want is to come back in here 6 months from know asking why you cant get an erection any longer (no joke)!

    Your choice my friend...make the right decision and I will assist, make the wrong one and all I can do is wish you good luck and good health.
    Thank you so much mate, I really do appreciate you taking the time to help me on this.
    To be honest I don't want to take steroids full stop but for the past 7month I've been unhappy with myself for not progressing the way I want to naturally, so I've thought hard about this choice and I was considering to do "1" short term course on Dbol just to boost me forward a few steps and then work on what I gain naturally to maintain and keep the gains I get from it. And then after that not use them again because I don't want to be a bodybuilder or anything like that, so do you think if I did "1" short term course an then maintain it naturally again it will be ok? And as for erectile problems I've looked into that and that's why I don't want to abuse steroids or use them long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matty Fisher View Post
    Thank you so much mate, I really do appreciate you taking the time to help me on this.
    To be honest I don't want to take steroids full stop but for the past 7month I've been unhappy with myself for not progressing the way I want to naturally, so I've thought hard about this choice and I was considering to do "1" short term course on Dbol just to boost me forward a few steps and then work on what I gain naturally to maintain and keep the gains I get from it. And then after that not use them again because I don't want to be a bodybuilder or anything like that, so do you think if I did "1" short term course an then maintain it naturally again it will be ok? And as for erectile problems I've looked into that and that's why I don't want to abuse steroids or use them long term.

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    1 short course can cause you issues. Some may have no problems, but some do.
    Also your diet dictates everything. It determines how much you way and if you keep gains after a cycle. What you eat is more important then what you inject or pills you take.
    Whats your current diet look like? Also your diet has to keep evolving. Because as you ad weight you need more food. So the diet that got you results 6 months ago will not keep giving you results now
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matty Fisher View Post
    Thank you so much mate, I really do appreciate you taking the time to help me on this.
    To be honest I don't want to take steroids full stop but for the past 7month I've been unhappy with myself for not progressing the way I want to naturally, so I've thought hard about this choice and I was considering to do "1" short term course on Dbol just to boost me forward a few steps and then work on what I gain naturally to maintain and keep the gains I get from it. And then after that not use them again because I don't want to be a bodybuilder or anything like that, so do you think if I did "1" short term course an then maintain it naturally again it will be ok? And as for erectile problems I've looked into that and that's why I don't want to abuse steroids or use them long term.

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    Matty...you are looking for me to tell you want you want to hear but I can't because those are not truths. First of all Dbol is a kickstart type of compound that cuases lots of wwate weight gain. You will mkost likely lose everything you gain on dbol as quickly as you gained it. Secondly, yes, even 1 "short" cycle can end up damaging your endo system and can result in a number of health issues that you may see right away or you may see down the road into your 30's when you want to have kids. I am not trying to keep you away from steroids. I am trying to say that it's important to be samrt about it.

    I promise we can adjust what you are doing and given a little time and max effort by you, you will see the progress you are looking for. Hell I didnt touch the stuff till I was 35.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    Matty...you are looking for me to tell you want you want to hear but I can't because those are not truths. First of all Dbol is a kickstart type of compound that cuases lots of wwate weight gain. You will mkost likely lose everything you gain on dbol as quickly as you gained it. Secondly, yes, even 1 "short" cycle can end up damaging your endo system and can result in a number of health issues that you may see right away or you may see down the road into your 30's when you want to have kids. I am not trying to keep you away from steroids. I am trying to say that it's important to be samrt about it.

    I promise we can adjust what you are doing and given a little time and max effort by you, you will see the progress you are looking for. Hell I didnt touch the stuff till I was 35.
    I'm sorry mate, yeah I'm coming across a bit strong "wanting" answers, I don't mean to, in just trying to get answers from all sides of this if you k ow what I mean, and I do understand the health risks I'm taking in even thinking about steroid use in any way and personally I'm not 100% on the subject but I don't know how to explain this, I just "want" to try this I guess. But I am listening to you and I won't even touch the stuff till I have all my questions answered. And I do want to adjust with you on this I really do, all your help means a lot and I thank you for it, it's just that I seem to of hit a wall in my training now, ever since I left the army I'm stuck to training and made it more harder and challenging for myself, I've gained a lot in the time of doing all this but like I say for the last 7months no improvement have come to me and no matter how hard I push myself I'm not moving forward n it's making me depressed in some sort of way. Self doubt maybe, I'm not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matty Fisher View Post
    I'm sorry mate, yeah I'm coming across a bit strong "wanting" answers, I don't mean to, in just trying to get answers from all sides of this if you k ow what I mean, and I do understand the health risks I'm taking in even thinking about steroid use in any way and personally I'm not 100% on the subject but I don't know how to explain this, I just "want" to try this I guess. But I am listening to you and I won't even touch the stuff till I have all my questions answered. And I do want to adjust with you on this I really do, all your help means a lot and I thank you for it, it's just that I seem to of hit a wall in my training now, ever since I left the army I'm stuck to training and made it more harder and challenging for myself, I've gained a lot in the time of doing all this but like I say for the last 7months no improvement have come to me and no matter how hard I push myself I'm not moving forward n it's making me depressed in some sort of way. Self doubt maybe, I'm not sure.

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    Well a good soldier should be able to use deductive reasoning...right? Whe I graduate High School I was 5'10 (maybe) 170# I stayed this size till I got out of the Marine Corps.
    I am now 6' (maybe lol) 238-245.

    I say try this. Lets take a little time to kick this around. Spend some time in here and let's check your diet and your workouts. If at the end of the day those things can't help you then I will not be the one to stand in your way. Deal???? I am not offering my services again.....your call

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    Well a good soldier should be able to use deductive reasoning...right? Whe I graduate High School I was 5'10 (maybe) 170# I stayed this size till I got out of the Marine Corps.
    I am now 6' (maybe lol) 238-245.

    I say try this. Lets take a little time to kick this around. Spend some time in here and let's check your diet and your workouts. If at the end of the day those things can't help you then I will not be the one to stand in your way. Deal???? I am not offering my services again.....your call
    Yes you're perfectly right in what you've said. I guess I'm jut putting myself down too much! But yes you got a DEAL. Thank you for this offer.

    Do you have:
    Facebook
    Blackberry
    iPhone

    Anything like that where we can stay in touch on a better level instead of having to check this all the time. I think that way we could work better and be able to track what I do easier, but if not, on here is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matty Fisher View Post
    Yes you're perfectly right in what you've said. I guess I'm jut putting myself down too much! But yes you got a DEAL. Thank you for this offer.

    Do you have:
    Facebook
    Blackberry
    iPhone

    Anything like that where we can stay in touch on a better level instead of having to check this all the time. I think that way we could work better and be able to track what I do easier, but if not, on here is fine.

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    For obvious reasons I dont give out my personal info to members on here but as I said in the other thread you post to here and there is a good chance I will see it. There is also apm option when you hit 50 messages. While I am looking for that link I want you to grab a pen and paper and start writing down your entier food intake yesterday.

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