prohormone cycle - feedback request!

[triangulo]

thanx for your input guys. i have to admit i don't know anything about proper eating and training. i used to only train jiu jitsu and have started to look for ways to complement my training. obviously i need to do some research before i do another cycle and learn about nutrition and training regimens, since i want to spend my money wisely.

what sources can you recommend? are there any good websites with well written articles on these topics? any good threads in forums? do you know of any books you can recommend?

i know i could just read through this forum, but i feel like when you don't know anything yet, forums can be more confusing, because in one thread you have somebody saying this, in another thread that. especially in this areas. just look at all the different diets there are. i think forums are a great way to learn - when you already know something.

looking forward to learn!

p.s. i weighed 70kg before i started my first cycle.

[songdog]

Bro before you do anything else hit the diet section.LEARN how to eat and spend the next few months doing this and building a base.Then if you want to hit the juice.

[Honkey_Kong]

thanx for your input guys. i have to admit i don't know anything about proper eating and training. i used to only train jiu jitsu and have started to look for ways to complement my training. obviously i need to do some research before i do another cycle and learn about nutrition and training regimens, since i want to spend my money wisely.

what sources can you recommend? are there any good websites with well written articles on these topics? any good threads in forums? do you know of any books you can recommend?

i know i could just read through this forum, but i feel like when you don't know anything yet, forums can be more confusing, because in one thread you have somebody saying this, in another thread that. especially in this areas. just look at all the different diets there are. i think forums are a great way to learn - when you already know something.

looking forward to learn!

p.s. i weighed 70kg before i started my first cycle.

I recommend you hit up the diet section AND NOT RUN ANY MORE CYCLES. At least not for a long time. What you should do is tomorrow write down from the minute you wake up to the second you go to bed, everything you eat for the day, when you eat it, what the portions are of what you eat and what the calories, carbs, sugars, proteins and fats are of each item. Then post this in the diet section here and then people will give you solid advice on what you're doing wrong in the kitchen. As far as training goes, you can post your exact training regimen for the last week in here and we can help you with that too.

What exactly are your goals from training? It's important to write out your long term goal and then divide it among achievable short term goals. Otherwise it's really difficult to get results when you don't have and idea of what you want and what you have to do.

[triangulo]

I recommend you hit up the diet section AND NOT RUN ANY MORE CYCLES. At least not for a long time. What you should do is tomorrow write down from the minute you wake up to the second you go to bed, everything you eat for the day, when you eat it, what the portions are of what you eat and what the calories, carbs, sugars, proteins and fats are of each item. Then post this in the diet section here and then people will give you solid advice on what you're doing wrong in the kitchen. As far as training goes, you can post your exact training regimen for the last week in here and we can help you with that too.

What exactly are your goals from training? It's important to write out your long term goal and then divide it among achievable short term goals. Otherwise it's really difficult to get results when you don't have and idea of what you want and what you have to do.

hi again! thanx for your input. i found someone who offered to help me design a diet and a proper training regimen. i sent him all my info and am waiting now for his reply. i will keep you posted. no worries, i realize i need to learn about eating and training first before even considering doing another prohormone cycle.

however, i still have a couple of questions i would like to ask you about what you proposed:
- how do i count calories, carbs, sugars, proteins and fats in daily life? i mean, i know that you can find all this info on the packages, but how do you actually break them down for example if you ate just 2 cookies of a whole package? what if the cookies are self-made and there is no package to see the ingredients and calories? what if you eat a bowl of cereals out of a cereal box? do you weigh the cereals before you eat them? what if you make your own muesli out of fresh ingredients without all of that info? maybe those questions may sound really stupid to somebody who is used to count calories etc., but all of this is really new to me and i don't even know where to start...
- can you recommend any literature on this for me to read?

[Honkey_Kong]

hi again! thanx for your input. i found someone who offered to help me design a diet and a proper training regimen. i sent him all my info and am waiting now for his reply. i will keep you posted. no worries, i realize i need to learn about eating and training first before even considering doing another prohormone cycle.

however, i still have a couple of questions i would like to ask you about what you proposed:
- how do i count calories, carbs, sugars, proteins and fats in daily life? i mean, i know that you can find all this info on the packages, but how do you actually break them down for example if you ate just 2 cookies of a whole package? what if the cookies are self-made and there is no package to see the ingredients and calories? what if you eat a bowl of cereals out of a cereal box? do you weigh the cereals before you eat them? what if you make your own muesli out of fresh ingredients without all of that info? maybe those questions may sound really stupid to somebody who is used to count calories etc., but all of this is really new to me and i don't even know where to start...
- can you recommend any literature on this for me to read?

Well if you made the cookies yourself, you know how much of each ingredient you used. You can google that stuff out and from there use a little algebra to figure out how much is in the portion size you ate (there's finally a use for it). But like if a package says there is 400 calories per serving and 3 servings to a box. you can assume there's 1200 calories in the entire box. Then you can divide that by the portion size you ate and that's how many calories you consumed from that item.

If you're good at estimating, you don't really have to weigh everything. But it also wouldn't hurt you to invest in a dietary scale.