Difference in dosing of long and short esters

[lestat85]

Dont forget that the prop ester takes up less room. In other words the mg rating is for that ester. so 100mg of test p is like 85 mg actual testosterone after the ester is removed, and test E the E ester takes up more of the 100mg leaving more like 68mg of actual testosterone.

So to make it simple, 1mg of test p is more powerful then 1 mg of test e.

SO 85mg x 3.5 =297.5mg per week prop, 170mg x 2= 340mg per week ethanate so the difference is only about 40 mg of actual testosterone a week. Im not even sure if the 85 and 68 are the actual numbers but i think they are close. So with that small of a difference over a week factors like diet and sleep and training effect gains more. the cycles at such doses, are basically identical. hope that made sense.

So if I'm understanding this correctly, 350 mg test p (average per week) is roughly 40 mg less than 500 mg test e? This is actually a lot more actual test from what seems like a much smaller dose. Thank you for this breakdown. I'll have to look into the ester weights a little more.

[Lunk1]

So if I'm understanding this correctly, 350 mg test p (average per week) is roughly 40 mg less than 500 mg test e? This is actually a lot more actual test from what seems like a much smaller dose. Thank you for this breakdown. I'll have to look into the ester weights a little more.

No lestat...it's the other wy around. the prop ester is smaller and therefore mg for mg you get more test. You will never notice 30 or 40 mg believe me and if your exteremely concerened...draw a little more.

My best suggestion. Don't over think it to much. Decide if you have time for a long cycle or if you want to be in and out with a short, decide if you prefer EOD or 2Xweek pins and choose your mg per week. END OF STORY!

[lestat85]

No lestat...it's the other wy around. the prop ester is smaller and therefore mg for mg you get more test. You will never notice 30 or 40 mg believe me and if your exteremely concerened...draw a little more.

My best suggestion. Don't over think it to much. Decide if you have time for a long cycle or if you want to be in and out with a short, decide if you prefer EOD or 2Xweek pins and choose your mg per week. END OF STORY!

It sounds like what DAAS is saying is that the ester weight makes the smaller dose of prop so close in actual test that it is basically the same, even though it seems less. I just want to make sure I completely understand. I tend to over think most things, it's just who I am.

Your advice has helped a lot. The extra pinning isn't a problem for me. Timing will likely be the deciding factor, as any extra from matching the dose would only be beneficial. From what I understand, it not only kicks in faster, but also clears faster, allowing you to pass a drug test sooner. This is a very appealing aspect.