Whey Protein Shake vs Actual Food

[falco21]

If you're looking for studies, there are quite a number of them written in various medical journals that you could look into. One that I remember and have seen quite often was the testing of over 15 different branded types of protein powder. All of which contain 4 different heavy metals. Some examples listed were:

Eas Myoplex (Arsenic, Cadmium)
Muscle Milk-Chocolate (Cadmium, Lead)
Muscle Milk-Vanilla (Lead)

The article then went on to show that drinking solely protein powders as a means of reaching your protein intake could in fact cause long term health conditions.

[likelifting]

If you're looking for studies, there are quite a number of them written in various medical journals that you could look into. One that I remember and have seen quite often was the testing of over 15 different branded types of protein powder. All of which contain 4 different heavy metals. Some examples listed were:

Eas Myoplex (Arsenic, Cadmium)
Muscle Milk-Chocolate (Cadmium, Lead)
Muscle Milk-Vanilla (Lead)

The article then went on to show that drinking solely protein powders as a means of reaching your protein intake could in fact cause long term health conditions.

I've seen/read things similar to this. I agree that shakes solely for your only source of calories in a day, isn't healthy.

[thex95]

If you're looking for studies, there are quite a number of them written in various medical journals that you could look into. One that I remember and have seen quite often was the testing of over 15 different branded types of protein powder. All of which contain 4 different heavy metals. Some examples listed were:

Eas Myoplex (Arsenic, Cadmium)
Muscle Milk-Chocolate (Cadmium, Lead)
Muscle Milk-Vanilla (Lead)

The article then went on to show that drinking solely protein powders as a means of reaching your protein intake could in fact cause long term health conditions.

so is the general agreement that drinking protein shakes is simply "bad for you"? are their any specifics of the extent to which these shakes cause long term health conditions, or the correlation between the intake of shakes and long term health conditions?

Does this also mean that taking shakes instead of food has no affect on gains either?

[kronik420]

so is the general agreement that drinking protein shakes is simply "bad for you"? are their any specifics of the extent to which these shakes cause long term health conditions, or the correlation between the intake of shakes and long term health conditions?

Does this also mean that taking shakes instead of food has no affect on gains either?

do an experiment, eat nothing except for protein shakes for a week or 2 and see what happens.. see how you feel.. see if you gain/loose weight/muscle...

i couldn't live off of just shakes, i like food

[thex95]

do an experiment, eat nothing except for protein shakes for a week or 2 and see what happens.. see how you feel.. see if you gain/loose weight/muscle...

i couldn't live off of just shakes, i like food

AGAIN, I am not talking about using soley protein shakes as a protein source so your post is irrelevant

[falco21]

so is the general agreement that drinking protein shakes is simply "bad for you"? are their any specifics of the extent to which these shakes cause long term health conditions, or the correlation between the intake of shakes and long term health conditions?

Does this also mean that taking shakes instead of food has no affect on gains either?

Nowhere in there did I state that drinking protein shakes is "bad for you". What I was stating was that if one solely lives off protein shakes, they could in fact cause a negative outcome rather than that of a positive one. Protein shakes, just like any other food known to man, when given in the wrong hands, can be turned into something that could be "dangerous" to our health. Hell, all of us shouldn't be eating any Tuna if we listen to that bullshit. I am just pointing to a study that showed the bad ingredients found in these shakes. Minimal, yes, but still there.

Let me quote myself from that reply: "The article then went on to show that drinking SOLELY protein powders as a means of reaching your protein intake could in fact cause long term health conditions."

Again, the study showed if you drink just shakes alone, it COULD possibly have negative effects on your health.

[thex95]

alright so it seems no one has any actual solid evidence of why it is so much more beneficial to eat food instead of taking in protein shakes. Just a bunch of general assumptions and the passage of previously issued knowledge without any critical thought on the matter.

[Perseverance1]

alright so it seems no one has any actual solid evidence of why it is so much more beneficial to eat food instead of taking in protein shakes. Just a bunch of general assumptions and the passage of previously issued knowledge without any critical thought on the matter.

Here is some critical thought on the matter: protein powder will be absorbed and broken down MUCH quicker than say, a chicken breast. What does that mean exactly? Well, it means that you'll drink your 50g protein shake and the protein will be absorbed in 20-30 minutes and then your body will sit without a protein source for about 2 hours until your next meal....pretty simple to be honest.

This info isn't from me either, it's my "passage of previously issued knowledge" from my friends bodybuilding nutritionist. I got this info about a month ago too...so I doubt much has changed in terms of research........

[Back In Black]

Here is some critical thought on the matter: protein powder will be absorbed and broken down MUCH quicker than say, a chicken breast. What does that mean exactly? Well, it means that you'll drink your 50g protein shake and the protein will be absorbed in 20-30 minutes and then your body will sit without a protein source for about 2 hours until your next meal....pretty simple to be honest.

This info isn't from me either, it's my "passage of previously issued knowledge" from my friends bodybuilding nutritionist. I got this info about a month ago too...so I doubt much has changed in terms of research........

Depending, of course, on the type of protein powder you use. Isolate is quicker than concentrate which is quicker than casein. A combination of these will also have different absorption rates.

Also, if you are mixing your powder with a carb source, again you are changing absorption rates.

[Perseverance1]

Depending, of course, on the type of protein powder you use. Isolate is quicker than concentrate which is quicker than casein. A combination of these will also have different absorption rates.

Also, if you are mixing your powder with a carb source, again you are changing absorption rates.

I tried that argument...still doesn't matter much. What I personally do with my shakes is mix egg whites, iso whey, whey conc, and casein (sometimes I add nuts or a carb source) AND most importantly...I take the full 2 hours to drink it.

Even then, all of my friends trainers still prefer food over supps, but they admit that if your going to drink shakes then the way I'm now doing it is the best.