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[GirlyGymRat]

that's what i thought!

def like a steel trap! when i use it!

can't wait to see how that cycle treats you!

All the guys running cycle except for u?!???

[RaginCajun]

All the guys running cycle except for u?!???

yes mam!

i need to get the BF a little lower and need to go get some bloodwork done to see where i stand

you don't miss much missy!

[Bertuzzi]

You're looking great in that avi 405... you've come a long way man, good for you. I'm excited to look half as good as you do right now!

[GirlyGymRat]

You're looking great in that avi 405... you've come a long way man, good for you. I'm excited to look half as good as you do right now!

That enuff now . 405 is gonna get a big head !!!

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that's what i thought!

def like a steel trap! when i use it!

can't wait to see how that cycle treats you!

thx cajun me 2! i realize the approach some (or most) think is not enuff but hey the results will tell the tale.

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You're looking great in that avi 405... you've come a long way man, good for you. I'm excited to look half as good as you do right now!

thx bert! get it dun man!

[bikeral]

cycle? when do you start? what did you decide to run?

[energizer bunny]

new avi mate!........well done, looking great! very lean.....

[--->>405<<---]

cycle? when do you start? what did you decide to run?

baby steps!

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...g#.UO3jR2_edP8

[--->>405<<---]

new avi mate!........well done, looking great! very lean.....

thx dude! h0pefully not as lean as ill look in about 2 months!

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here u go dude..got tired of scrolling!

[Sfla80]

here u go dude..got tired of scrolling!

Lol thanks man

[human project]

here u go dude..got tired of scrolling!

I've never seen a transformation like this before...... When you gonna start juicing so we can really see your potential.....? What all supplements/drugs have you used to get to where you are now??

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I've never seen a transformation like this before...... When you gonna start juicing so we can really see your potential.....? What all supplements/drugs have you used to get to where you are now??

LOL... thats funny HP, i appreciate it too man..

thus far ive done: TRT, injectable L-Carnitine, small amount of "Burn" (stim) for about 4weeks.. thats it..


heres what im doing starting monday. and yes i know, everyone thinks my primo dosage is too low.. im running it anyways.. im NOT trying to add any LBM at this point just maintain LBM and shooting for 6%. after this i intend to maintain that bf% (hopefully) for long enuff to establish myself there so itll be easier to get back and then i will probably run a lean bulk (blast) a little later down the road (thinking end of summer).. let me know what u think!

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...g#.UO_-w2_edP9

[RaginCajun]

405, how much would you contribute your TRT to your transformation?

i know you have worked your tail off both diet wise and gym wise, just wondering how much that helped change your body compostition

looking good man!

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405, how much would you contribute your TRT to your transformation?

i know you have worked your tail off both diet wise and gym wise, just wondering how much that helped change your body compostition

looking good man!

thx cajun.. TRT: 50% without a doubt! hard to get lean and make gains when ur natty free test is 7.3 (8.7-25.1) total test was 349 (348-1197)

assuming we all train and do cardio ill give 45% to diet and 5% to my workouts. basically my old original pic is what i looked like by lifting and doing some cardio with a not so good diet and horrible natty test..

[RaginCajun]

thx cajun.. TRT: 50% without a doubt! hard to get lean and make gains when ur natty free test is 7.3 (8.7-25.1) total test was 349 (348-1197)

assuming we all train and do cardio ill give 45% to diet and 5% to my workouts. basically my old original pic is what i looked like by lifting and doing some cardio with a not so good diet and horrible natty test..

thanks for the info.

i need to go get tested. nothing is wrong with my libido or anything, just want/need to know where i stand.

diet is def the biggest factor i agree!

[--->>405<<---]

thanks for the info.

i need to go get tested. nothing is wrong with my libido or anything, just want/need to know where i stand.

diet is def the biggest factor i agree!

nothing was wrong with mine either! my wife still thinks the docs are idiots (LOL) based on my sex drive..

my 2 biggest symptoms was:
1. i was tired all the time even right when i woke up in the am.

2. couldnt lose fat or gain muscle..

[RaginCajun]

nothing was wrong with mine either! my wife still thinks the docs are idiots (LOL) based on my sex drive..

my 2 biggest symptoms was:
1. i was tired all the time even right when i woke up in the am.

2. couldnt lose fat or gain muscle..

hmmmmmm.......

i was with a 37 year old for new years and she kept asking if i took something! hahahaha

i am never really tired all the time, but could always use some energy.

it is very hard for me to lose fat, i think my estro is high.

it does take me a while to heal though.

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well just to be thorough i pinned my first pep shot tonite. did it right before cardio and only noticed slight nausea, got a hot flash, and then was fairly hungry. considering i was doing cardio (hot), and hadnt eaten all day the nausea and hunger + hot flash are all explainable. also quit dipping sunday..

needless to say its been a heck of a week already! also booked a 7-night cruise again! YAY!! eastern caribbean here we come! maybe this yr i can gain an even 20lbs!!

[Brick]

well just to be thorough i pinned my first pep shot tonite. did it right before cardio and only noticed slight nausea, got a hot flash, and then was fairly hungry. considering i was doing cardio (hot), and hadnt eaten all day the nausea and hunger + hot flash are all explainable. also quit dipping sunday..

needless to say its been a heck of a week already! also booked a 7-night cruise again! YAY!! eastern caribbean here we come! maybe this yr i can gain an even 20lbs!!

Dipping as in chew?

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Dipping as in chew?

thats correct sir.. funny when i quit smoking cigarettes i started dipping to help me quit and ended up getting addicted to the dip.. its been 3 years and long enuff!

[cue_artist]

405 can u jump into the PWO meal thread and give us your thoughts ? I would like to know what you think of the topic ... thanks

[RaginCajun]

just wanted to let you know that you have me hooked on diet mountain dew!!!!!!!!

i normally would never have a soft drink unless it was diet and mixed with liquor

i had two today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they are like crack!

[Zodiac82]

LOL... thats funny HP, i appreciate it too man..

thus far ive done: TRT, injectable L-Carnitine, ]

outa curiosity 405 how much l-carnitine were u injecting and how long did u do it for

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outa curiosity 405 how much l-carnitine were u injecting and how long did u do it for

6000mg (12mL) week 1 to achieve full saturation

3000mg (6mL) per week maintaining saturation..

im still using it BTW

[mockery]

i always imagine men who chew are big and very hairy., yet here u are hairless like a young mexican pool boy

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i always imagine men who chew are big and very hairy., yet here u are hairless like a young mexican pool boy

lol.. not naturally!

[Bodacious]

Hey 405 just booked a cruise my self 7 night. What line ate you going on?

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royal caribbean allure of the seas

[Zodiac82]

6000mg (12mL) week 1 to achieve full saturation

3000mg (6mL) per week maintaining saturation..

im still using it BTW

ok is that IM or sub....u can get that from arr right...
oh yeh by the way great transformation man....kudos

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ok is that IM or sub....u can get that from arr right...
oh yeh by the way great transformation man....kudos

IM and from my experience its a bitch of an inject! hurts every time and have PIP every time. the first time i injected my glute i could hardly sleep! they say u can do sub q i havent tried it primarily due to the fact that it also has to be taken with carbs (unless ur injecting slin) to shuttle the carnitine into whatever brain barrier thing it has to go thru and i dont have room in my diet for 75g carbs 6 days per week which is how itd have to be done to maintain a 6mL saturation dose done sub q..

the best place ive found is the delts.. they still hurt.. the pip has decreased about 50% or so over the 8-9 weeks ive been on this stuff..

[Zodiac82]

IM and from my experience its a bitch of an inject! hurts every time and have PIP every time. the first time i injected my glute i could hardly sleep! they say u can do sub q i havent tried it primarily due to the fact that it also has to be taken with carbs (unless ur injecting slin) to shuttle the carnitine into whatever brain barrier thing it has to go thru and i dont have room in my diet for 75g carbs 6 days per week which is how itd have to be done to maintain a 6mL saturation dose done sub q..

the best place ive found is the delts.. they still hurt.. the pip has decreased about 50% or so over the 8-9 weeks ive been on this stuff..

lol ur making me have second thoughts....I thinking im gonna give it a shot though

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why cuz it hurts? dont be such a pu55y!! its not that bad! u just gotta be tuff! its best to run it concurrently with mod grf and ghrp2 (or the like) to really see good fat loss benefit..

[human project]

why cuz it hurts? dont be such a pu55y!! its not that bad! u just gotta be tuff! its best to run it concurrently with mod grf and ghrp2 (or the like) to really see good fat loss benefit..

Your making me want to give it a try now.... Man I swear every week I find a new compound I just have to get lol

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Your making me want to give it a try now.... Man I swear every week I find a new compound I just have to get lol

LOL.. yeh once my primo gets here ill be injecting 6 things into my body weekly! of course 2 of em r TRT but still...

[-KJ-]

Hey 405 long time since I've been on...

Good to see your going strong

[human project]

LOL.. yeh once my primo gets here ill be injecting 6 things into my body weekly! of course 2 of em r TRT but still...

You know I was really contemplating primo instead of test but I figured ill wait bc I've used test a million times; so ill stick with it for this show. I'm starting not like test as much as I use to. I'm starting to think its the main cause of my sides. Is that why you choose primo?

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just to be thorough for this thread today i measured my waist and it is at its smallest that it has ever been! 31.75" (YES!!!)

i expect it can still get a little smaller but im thinking im getting down to where it cant drop too much more.

[energizer bunny]

just to be thorough for this thread today i measured my waist and it is at its smallest that it has ever been! 31.75" (YES!!!)

i expect it can still get a little smaller but im thinking im getting down to where it cant drop too much more.

well done mate!!........after all this time you are still progressing! excellent attitude and determination, props for 405..