Comparison between 100mg test Sub-Q and IM (with labwork)

[GFA]

Reason why estrogen levels and such are lower when you inject via SQ is because it doesn't absorbed as effective as IM therefore you Test levels don't go up as high which is why estrogen levels are lower via SQ

Which defeats the purpose of injecting SQ, you can obtain the same result by not injecting testosterone at all. If you absorbing less test, that means you have to inject more to get the same effect which would probably have the same effect on estrogen.

In my case I was absorbing almost no test.

GFA, I did this experiment a wile ago and posted it here, the difference between yours and mine is I continued AI and hCG , my test levels were almost the same. if you see my latest BW I just posted, at 50 mgs twice a week got my total close to 800 and my free way above normal range. I guess we all absorb differently but I think the key here is SQ must be twice a week to be effective, I can't explain it but thats how it works best!

You should try again without HCG or AI. Your experiment is flawed since HCG and AI can raise your test levels. Thats why I went with testosterone alone. When I did HCG mono therapy in the past my test levels went up to 700 ish @250 iu a day. AIs are also known to increase testosterone levels.

Its possible you are absorbing very little to no testosterone. You wont know for sure unless you redo your bw only using testosterone.

@kelkel, have you tested just SQ alone? If not, its also possible your SQ injections are going to waste.

Im not here to tell people how to inject, but if they think they are getting the same absorption rates using SQ, its clearly not the case for me and others may have similar absorption rates. Introducing ancillaries in your protocol only cloud your results.

Baseline (no testosterone injections) 284 ng/dL
100mg Test-Cyp 1x a week Sub-Q 366 ng/dL (increase of 82 ng/DL) - basically within the standard deviation.
100mg Test-Cyp 1x a week IM 792 ng/dL (May 11, 2012) - increase of 512 ng/dL

This is a HUGE difference in absorption rates. Thats like 16% absorption rate if you consider IM as 100% (and I dont know what the absorption rate for IM is)

SQ is 16% (82/512) as effective as IM. 84% is metabolized.

[booku]

I am very intrigued by your results. I am 22 years old and just started TRT on Dec. 29th, with test only at 100 mg/week sub-Q at 2, 50 mg shots/week. My baseline T level pre TRT was 70 ng/dL. Will post my first bloodwork results in February. My fingers are crossed that sub-Q works well enough for me!

This will be a good trial run for a Test ONLY, SUB-Q, twice a week protocol

[lovbyts]

I am very intrigued by your results. I am 22 years old and just started TRT on Dec. 29th, with test only at 100 mg/week sub-Q at 2, 50 mg shots/week. My baseline T level pre TRT was 70 ng/dL. Will post my first bloodwork results in February. My fingers are crossed that sub-Q works well enough for me!

This will be a good trial run for a Test ONLY, SUB-Q, twice a week protocol

22 and on TRT? Under doctor supervision right?

[booku]

22 and on TRT? Under doctor supervision right?

correct, doctor prescribed. thyroid good, pituitary good, testicles good, so this is the road I've taken

[GFA]

correct, doctor prescribed. thyroid good, pituitary good, testicles good, so this is the road I've taken

Looking forward to the results but have you explored HPTA restart? How is your LH/FSH? 22 is really young to do TRT for the rest of your life. Having kids may be very difficult in the future.