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    Ok, so Dr. Gaines responded below. Not as sophisticated explanation as I would like, but maybe it doesn't need to be:

    gd,
    "Often times, the quality of the blood vessels in the sq tissue varies.
    Some age management practioners feel that there is a lack of vascularity in the abdominal sq tissue. These guys recommend injection sq over the deltoid or thigh.
    I just recommend changing the sq location.
    Hope you're doing well."
    Rich Gaines


    Ok, so this goes to the one hypothesis I threw out there that possibly the OP has a condition with his adipose tissue that won't allow for proper absorption. Dr. Gaines makes the point and makes a recommendation on what AA Docs suggest as an alternative.

    Makes sense to me; if there is a lack of blood vessels in the AT than the pathway for absorption will be compromised.

    OP, test other fat pads besides your stomach and see if you don't get a better result...I am willing to bet you just may

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Ok, so Dr. Gaines responded below. Not as sophisticated explanation as I would like, but maybe it doesn't need to be:

    gd,
    "Often times, the quality of the blood vessels in the sq tissue varies.
    Some age management practioners feel that there is a lack of vascularity in the abdominal sq tissue. These guys recommend injection sq over the deltoid or thigh.
    I just recommend changing the sq location.
    Hope you're doing well."
    Rich Gaines


    Ok, so this goes to the one hypothesis I threw out there that possibly the OP has a condition with his adipose tissue that won't allow for proper absorption. Dr. Gaines makes the point and makes a recommendation on what AA Docs suggest as an alternative.

    Makes sense to me; if there is a lack of blood vessels in the AT than the pathway for absorption will be compromised.

    OP, test other fat pads besides your stomach and see if you don't get a better result...I am willing to bet you just may
    So basically don't inject into a beer gut?

    I might try SQ again but going to stick with IM for awhile to get my levels up. If I do, Ill try in my thigh only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post

    OP, test other fat pads besides your stomach and see if you don't get a better result...I am willing to bet you just may
    If the "fat pads" you've been injecting in are not as good as somewhere else on your body, then where is the test going if not absorbing well in the stomach area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 38onTRT View Post
    If the "fat pads" you've been injecting in are not as good as somewhere else on your body, then where is the test going if not absorbing well in the stomach area?
    Hopefully metabolized or its just sitting in the fat (which is even scarier).

    I don't like the result regardless and switching to IM for awhile. I might do SQ again thigh only to see if that changes the result. The idea of testosterone sitting in my fat doesn't sit well with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GFA View Post
    Hopefully metabolized or its just sitting in the fat (which is even scarier).

    I don't like the result regardless and switching to IM for awhile. I might do SQ again thigh only to see if that changes the result. The idea of testosterone sitting in my fat doesn't sit well with me.
    It dont think it just sits in the fat, its lipid soluble and absorbs into cells via passive diffusion eventually

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Ok, so Dr. Gaines responded below. Not as sophisticated explanation as I would like, but maybe it doesn't need to be:

    gd,
    "Often times, the quality of the blood vessels in the sq tissue varies.
    Some age management practioners feel that there is a lack of vascularity in the abdominal sq tissue. These guys recommend injection sq over the deltoid or thigh.
    I just recommend changing the sq location.
    Hope you're doing well."
    Rich Gaines


    Ok, so this goes to the one hypothesis I threw out there that possibly the OP has a condition with his adipose tissue that won't allow for proper absorption. Dr. Gaines makes the point and makes a recommendation on what AA Docs suggest as an alternative.

    Makes sense to me; if there is a lack of blood vessels in the AT than the pathway for absorption will be compromised.

    OP, test other fat pads besides your stomach and see if you don't get a better result...I am willing to bet you just may
    Somebody (not me as I'm a new member) with some credability should post these results on Crislers forum and see what reaction it gets there???

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