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    GFA, what needles/syringes were you using for your sub-Q injections, and what sites did you inject with those needle(s)???

    And I could potentially do the test since I started with sub-Q test only. But I feel like sub-Q is working very well for me only after 15 days (5 injections so far). Went from caffeine dependence, taking naps every day, zombie mode, just existing, to 1 small cup of coffee in the morning, no naps, great workouts, fairly good energy throughout the day, and rock hard erections constantly, still very early... and with baseline so low who knows until blood work is run
    Last edited by booku; 01-13-2013 at 05:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by booku View Post
    GFA, what needles/syringes were you using for your sub-Q injections, and what sites did you inject with those needle(s)???

    And I could potentially do the test since I started with sub-Q test only. But I feel like sub-Q is working very well for me only after 15 days (5 injections so far). Went from caffeine dependence, taking naps every day, zombie mode, just existing, to 1 small cup of coffee in the morning, no naps, great workouts, fairly good energy throughout the day, and rock hard erections constantly, still very early... and with baseline so low who knows until blood work is run
    Mostly 25g 5/8" needles in the abdominal area, sometimes quads (pinch skin and inject).

    If it works thats great, thats the purpose of this thread to find out what works and what doesnt. It doesnt work for me. HCG sub-q worked great. I really wished test sub-q worked because I have tons of anxiety each time I inject IM. I inject into the quads and sometimes its perfectly fine but other times the needle doesnt want to go in or i feel my muscles twitch when the needle goes into them and it freaks me out sometimes. I want to try glutes soon.

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    quad injections might not have been sub-Q even with 20% BF, average skin thickness is 2 mm plus the sub-Q thigh layer is on average 10 mm in regular UNTRAINED people ie regular bodyfat levels like yourself. 5/8" needle is 15.875 mm. just a thought, not entirely sure and also depends on your pinching and if you stuck the needle all the way in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by booku View Post
    quad injections might not have been sub-Q even with 20% BF, average skin thickness is 2 mm plus the sub-Q thigh layer is on average 10 mm in regular UNTRAINED people ie regular bodyfat levels like yourself. 5/8" needle is 15.875 mm. just a thought, not entirely sure and also depends on your pinching and if you stuck the needle all the way in?
    Maybe 2 of my injections were in the quad due to bruising under the skin. They were subq-q, was done at angle and like I stated previously, I can feel the needle entering the muscle. Rest were in the abs. The last 4 injections were definitely in the abs, sub-q.

    @Ratt, Ill add you to the list.

    GFA - 100 mg (1x100mg weekly)
    Baseline 284 ng/dL (Total test)
    SQ 366 ng/dL (Total test) 102.9 ng/dL range 40.0-250.0 (F+W Bound)
    IM 792 ng/dL (Total test) 243.1 ng/dL range 40.0-250.0 (F+W Bound)
    Summary - IM 600% more effective than SQ for total test.

    Allaaro - do you have total test levels as well?
    Baseline ?
    SQ 56.5 (Free test) 150mg (3x50mg)
    IM 121.1 (Free test) 200mg (2x100mg)
    Summary - 30% increase in test yields 150% higher free test levels. Would like to see similar levels of test injected per week and total test. Your free test increases look similar to mine in terms of percentages.

    Booku
    Baseline 70 ng/dL (Total test) 1.7 pg/mL range 9.3-26.5 pg/mL (free test)
    SQ ? 100mg (2x50mg)
    IM ?
    Summary - unknown

    Ratt
    Baseline ?
    SQ 450 ng/dL 100mg (2x50mg)
    IM 750-900 ng/dL (120mg weekly, frequency unknown)
    Summary - 300-450 ng/dL reduction using SQ.
    Last edited by GFA; 01-13-2013 at 06:34 PM.

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