Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
The overall point of the thread was to discuss the misplaced security many feel. On most message boards you'll find an overwhelming number of post where guys say explain that they do things a certain way to ensure they don't end up on TRT later. However, if we consider a large number of men who never use steroids will one day greatly benefit from TRT why would we assume someone who has repeatedly shut down his natural production for years on end would be any different? I think the best approach to using steroids is to assume TRT will be the end result. Granted, maybe it won't be but I do believe many will be in for a surprise.

The title of this thread...I included the word "Fact" for one simple reason...yes, I do believe much of what has been stated in this thread is fact, some of it is opinion but the reason for including the word "Fact" was for no other reason than to draw attention to the thread...make a title that draws people in or on the other side annoys people and you'll create a discussion...pretty simple, and yeah, maybe a slightly assholish way to approach things, lol!

Important fact...yes, FACT...this thread has absolutely nothing to do with young guys using or encouraging young guys to use steroids. I simply used the response often given to young guys as a jumping off point and nothing more.
No, it is YOU that does not understand or at least refuses to see any light shed on your hypotheses. This is actually aggravating to me now. You simple are not absorbing the difference between fact and opinion.

I dont think you really understand what it is im trying to explain to you. What you are doing in this thread is attempting to put together several groups of individuals into the same blender, turn it on, and then suggest the blended matter is fact. It isn't, for the final time.

To suggest that a AAS user who shuts down his HPTA a number of times in his lifetime is going to require TRT is a fact, is not telling the entire story. You continue to leave out one VERY important variable. And that is, by the time this user has completed what you're suggesting, he's a prime candidate for TRT! IE, hes in his 40's+! But you want to include men in their 40's, men who are hypogonadal (primary, secondary), and veteran AAS users. None of which are typically young men! This is my point! Young men reading this thread entitled "Fact" which clearly is NOT fact thinking TRT is ok and its equally fine to do AAS. But you're attempting to make it fact.

And to suggest further that you used the word "Fact" to simply draw attention is the most irresponsible thing ive heard form you so far. Smarten up Metalject. You're a lot more intelligent than that, and you certainly dont need to fabricate lies and be an "azzhole" (your word not mine) to get attention. Use your brain and supportive data to get attention and convince people, not buzz words that promote b.s.

Look, im not about to brow beat you anymore. I think ive made my point clear and there's no need for me to continue.

I hope you're able to see what im attempting to convey here. Perhaps later on you'll have an, "ahhh i see" moment. Until then, im out brother.

Respect.