MickeyKnox

I think some are misunderstanding what I’m saying, at least to a degree. I’ll try to layout my thoughts one by one so there’s no confusion, even then I know some will disagree but hopefully this’ll make things a little clearer.

*Let’s put steroid use aside, pretend steroids do not exist. In this case, most men will still benefit from TRT at some point in their life. In some cases, they will absolutely need it, in others, while they could get by without it they would still benefit from it greatly.

*Considering the above point, now reintroduce steroids into the equation. Take a guy who cycles on and off for several years. Your standard, basic gym rat steroid user, not over the top, nothing anyone would consider outrageous. Now if most of the men mentioned above are going to need or benefit from TRT at some point in their life how much more is this going to apply to former steroid users? In most cases a lot. Sure, there are exceptions to the rule, there are exceptions to most rules, but in general most steroid users will need or benefit from TRT.

*Andropause, yes I know what Andropause is. I make my living in TRT and steroid related things. Also, just a note of interest, in the U.S. alone considering both types of hypogonadism and Andropause there are more than 20 million men who suffer…that’s the estimate, and based on average testosterone levels in the U.S. for the last 20 years I suspect the number may be larger than that.

*No, I’m not suggesting the bulk of TRT patients are former AAS users…far from it. The bulk of TRT patients are actually shocked when they learn TRT therapy is the use of AAS and it freaks some of them out. Have you ever noticed how when the "LOWT" commercials started a few years back they couldn't even mention the word "Testosterone"? It's such a taboo word and even in the current advertisements they are very careful about what they say...it's almost a joke.

*By following standard message board advice, which assumes you won’t need TRT if later in life if you do so, if most men end up needing TRT later in their life despite no AAS use why would the former steroid user be any exception? And yes, many men NEED TRT, far more than actually end up getting on a program and even more than that, while they may not technically need it they would benefit from it. There’s nothing healthy about test levels that are above the low reference range but below the optimal range. This is something many physicians will not admit, especially those who have been practicing for 20+ years and are stuck in the old way of thinking, but slowly but surely some are starting to come around.

*Of course most aren’t an IFBB hopeful, that wasn’t my point. That example got into a separate argument about recognizing reality and the truth of what’s going on. All threads take a life of their own, they start out one way and other topics come up, that’s just how conversations in real life work too. Anyway, in my opinion feeding young guys a bunch of garbage and half truths, that’s the bigger crime and nothing pissed me off more when I was around that age…nothing! Telling the truth is not promoting anything, it’s simply telling the truth.