Dirk You can make great strides in 6-8 weeks. In 9 weeks I have went from 208 pounds 26%BF down to 193 and 17% (according to inaccurate calipers not BODPOD). I have been consuming 2100 calories a day, with macro's pretty close to 50% Protein/30% complex carbs/20% fat. BUT here is the kicker...I have been doing fasted high intensity interval training (HIIT) 3-5 mornings a week, then lift 4-5 times a week in the afternoon. Lots of BCAA pre,during and post cardio. According to the trainer at the gym and his calipers I have lost about 20 pounds of fat and gained about 5 pounds of lean muscle. All I know is I need all new pants and I like what I see in the mirror. It is a lot of work and dedication but once you start seeing results the male ego/motivation will kick in full gear.