Via atomini carnitine blocks the effectiveness of t3 on adipose. Don't remember specifics. Just thought I'd pass it on.Originally Posted by austinite
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Via atomini carnitine blocks the effectiveness of t3 on adipose. Don't remember specifics. Just thought I'd pass it on.
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It's true, not enough to be concerned when supplementing both. ... and studies also show that thyroid hormone may increase carnitine synthesis.
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heres a question regarding carnitine: ive been on injectable L Carnitine (6000mg per week) for about 4-5months. now ive read it is used to treat heart probs and i have notivced when it seems i am nearing or encroaching on losing my saturation my heart seems to skip beats here and there. i didnt know if it was coincidence or a reaction to the carnitine leaving my system or what?
also once i inject it and re-saturate these symptoms would go away again. its almost like it happens when it is leaving my system, as a sort of withdrawal symptom (if u will). needless to say i have just discontinued it completely as well as the peptides to see if it goes away. its been a couple days since my last injection and i havent had a single skipped beat today.. at its peak i would be it has happened in the upwards of 30x in one 16hr day.. maybe even more..
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Good to know, I knew I could count on u big guy!
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phew. Now you just sent me researching. I'm also curious. I have an irregular heartbeat, and with or without L carnitine, it remains irregular. However, I am just recently starting to look into injectable since you and Turkish Juicer mentioned it.
Elimination process is usually a good idea, and since yours indicates a relation I tend to believe it. But I will be researching this. But just FYI, an irregular heartbeat is not the disastrous condition that articles along the net make it out to be.
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yeh i gathered that.. something about misfiring electrical signals and stuff like that.. saturday it made me cut my cardio short and that was when i decided to discontinue usage.. like i said there is a direct connect with carnitiine and heart treatment.. the reason i discontinued the peps is because if u wiki cjc 1295 at the end of the description there is reference to conjuchem (the company that first started making it) and it said in their test subjects 3 of them died of myocardial infarction..
CJC-1295
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CJC-1295 is a tetrasubstituted 30-amino acid peptide hormone, primarily functioning as a growth hormone releasing hormone (GHRH) analog. It was invented by ConjuChem, a Canadian biotechnology company.
One of the advantages of CJC-1295 over traditional GHRH or rHGH is its ability to bioconjugate with serum albumin, thus increasing its half-life and therapeutic window. It accomplishes this by using protecting groups around the amino acids of GHRH typically susceptible to enzymatic degradation.
ConjuChem initiated clinical trials for CJC-1295 during the mid-2000s. The objective of the drug was to treat visceral fat deposits in obese AIDS patients, as increased levels of exogenous HGH are presumed to increase lipolysis (fat loss). The trial was ultimately successful for most research subjects, but the drug's marketing stalled when three of the trial's patients suffered a myocardial infarction.
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like i said after stopping the sides have not presented themselves in 24hrs. i made it a point yesterday to hit the cardio hard as hell! maintaining 160 BPM for 15mins just to make sure i was ok.. i fig if theres a prob dammit i want it to put me on the floor! otherwise it needs to get gone!
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[QUOTE=--->>405<<---;6465064]I came in 3 lbs under 185 and the other ****er was a mushy 186 (should have been fighting @ 170 if he had any dedication)... I dont know how many times Ive read that sust does something magical for fighters... dumbest shit I ever heard.... unless they use it wrong and with all the different esters they end up pinning not frequently enough and the hormonal imbalance causes mood swings and makes them more aggressive? Hows that? Reaching enough?
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lol....just when I got my peps and carnitine u post that lol....I actually decided to hold off on the mod grf because I don't have enough to run for a substantial time but im gonna give the carnitine a go....since uve stopped both at the same time maybe/hopefully it was just your cjc causing the issue
CJC-1295
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CJC-1295 is a tetrasubstituted 30-amino acid peptide hormone, primarily functioning as a growth hormone releasing hormone (GHRH) analog. It was invented by ConjuChem, a Canadian biotechnology company.
One of the advantages of CJC-1295 over traditional GHRH or rHGH is its ability to bioconjugate with serum albumin, thus increasing its half-life and therapeutic window. It accomplishes this by using protecting groups around the amino acids of GHRH typically susceptible to enzymatic degradation.
ConjuChem initiated clinical trials for CJC-1295 during the mid-2000s. The objective of the drug was to treat visceral fat deposits in obese AIDS patients, as increased levels of exogenous HGH are presumed to increase lipolysis (fat loss). The trial was ultimately successful for most research subjects, but the drug's marketing stalled when three of the trial's patients suffered a myocardial infarction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CJC-1295
like i said after stopping the sides have not presented themselves in 24hrs. i made it a point yesterday to hit the cardio hard as hell! maintaining 160 BPM for 15mins just to make sure i was ok.. i fig if theres a prob dammit i want it to put me on the floor! otherwise it needs to get gone!
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FYI injectable L Carnitine hurts like a MOFO!!! and PIP can keep u from sleeping well, especially if shot into the glute! it does get better with time. also cardio is a little easier and u maintain a lower working heart rate it seems..
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to answer your OP....
I've only done test @ 500 mg per week....I took something back in 1999/2000 my personal training manager gave me(cant remember what is was....and yes young and dumb)....but on test my confidence was way up....like S&S said....im pretty layed back but always had a real "inner confidence " thing goin on lol....and the sex drive was crazy....constantly wanting it from my girl....grabbing on her and pretty much attacking her when I saw her lol....made my very aggressive....didnt have too many sides....besides t-flu....there were a couple of nights/mornings I woke up and my shirt looked like I had just come out of a swimming pool....I got slightly bloated but quickly fixed by changing AI protocol....other than the obvious increased strength and wanting to eat everything lol....that was pretty much it and loved every bit of it....I think you've said you're on TRT but pct made me such a little girl lol
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stop saying that lol
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LOL.. sorry dude! i dont think its anything dangerous as it happens at rest primarily and when i run a stressful cardio workout it does not do it.. (except once LOL).. but if u research LCarnitine u will see it is administered to heart attack patients and patients with heart problems as part of treatment. therefore i deduce there is no danger but do find a connection, even if i dont understand what the connection is physiologically.
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i actually think MOD GRF and cjc 1295 are different chemically (but dont quote me on that)
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They are.i actually think MOD GRF and cjc 1295 are different chemically (but dont quote me on that
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I'll be completely honest with you. I have done some pretty reckless things in my life and my aas use I consider pretty tame.
My first experience was when I was 19. My brother gave me 8 amps of deca and 1 needle. Told me to stick it in my butt cheek once a week.
So I did, with the same needle every ****in time. At one point the tip was actually bent, and I still did it.
I actually got very strong and lean from these 8 weeks. I was working out consistently for about 8 months prior to this.
Then I went to a party and got jumped by about 10 - 15 people and broke 6 ribs, my jaw in 2 places and tore a buch of shit in both my legs. So needless to say, I did not keep any of my gains.
Did test a few times after that with no knowledge whatso ever. Just a pin here and a pin there.
First real cycle:
Then flash forward to '09 when I found this site. I read and read. Then ordered some test. Did a cycle of Test E pinning twice a week for 12 weeks. Ordered the proper PCT from arr. and atemted to do it for about 2 days.
Put on 25lbs of quality muscle and got stong as shit. I was benching 315 9 times. sitting at 220lbs
Tasted like complete shit and just stopped.
I was partying a lot here in vegas at the time and basically quite working out for about a year.
So again loss all my gains again.
Then a test equipose cycle 12 weeks which was severly underdosed, but still got good gains
I have never used HCG.
The cycle that I am on now:
Test cyo 250 a week
Tren E 400 a week
I have 3 vials of Tren E @ 200mgs/ml I will run it at 400 pw until it is gone
Will not do a pct, I will cruise on 250 test for a while.
I did go to a TRT clinc after my first real test cycle and had blood work done, knowing that my test levels would be low, and they were at 320. So went there for 6 weeks, but it was $25 per shot. So quit that.
I have never had libido issues and have never noticed any negative effects from this history.
I know I probably sound stupid to a lot of you, but I personally think a lot of stuff said on here is parroted bulls*it.
I am no expert, but I think a lot of guys here add too much to there cycles.
But needless to say, you will benifit greatly from a test cycle @ 500ml per week. You will feel amazing and you will get strong as shit.
Diet is extremely important, and you obviously and gained a ton of knowledge here, so you will be all good.
Sorry for the long post. Good luck.
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No disrespect but how do you become a monitor of a steroid fourm if youve never even been on before?
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He's a mod in the nutritional forum. Different mods for different forums
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What does being a monitor have to do with anything? This forum is far more than AAS related. Have you seen the other sections? Nutrition, Injury, Sports, etc... ? 405 has an incredible knowledge base in many areas and anything nutrition related I personally refer to his posts. Furthermore the level of dedication he has shown to the forums and it's members does not go unnoticed. He's also a TRT patient.
I appreciate you starting this comment with "No disrespect", but that comment was not necessary. If you have any further questions please PM Admin, he makes these final decisions.
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JJ78 i wont quote ur post as it is way too big! but i appreciate ur honesty. and i have also done some dumb things in my life, but i try not too anymore!
i hope u continue to have good luck with not running proper protocol. i would say the reason they are in place now is because people do need them.. i dont know how old u are but from the sounds of ur post i would guess ur still a fairly young guy (mid-late 20's).. some things u can/could get away with now/then u wont always be able to do! worth thinking about..
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no problem euroholic..
also what austin said.. (thanx austin!)
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I'm still trying to figure out how I got listed as Knowledgeable.
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Maybe you could complain about me too. And at least one other monitor that I'm aware of If you think we are doing a bad job or shouldnt be doing that job because we haven't cycled. I mean, RyanGreg has done 5 or 6 cycles in 5 months and tried most compounds. Maybe you should suggest to admin that people like him are promoted and we are stripped of our titles?!?!
Sometimes (frequently) mate, I despair of you.............
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Isn't he an Aussie?
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That's no excuse mate
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hahah it isThat's no excuse mate
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I know they're just not that intelligent as they're all related to the likes of frank Gallagher in one way or another lol
That's no excuse mate
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Im not complaining i just asked a ligament question. I have a background were leaders are ment to lead by example to inspire people. I was just a bit shocked.. Take what i say with a grain of salt I think diffrent than most people. I dont mean disrespect to you as a monitor sterm. And dont hate on me cause im australian my country gives out 90% free gyno surgery. And my parents are croatian/german so im not a convict aussie..
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Come on ashes!!!!!!
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Your just a mad cun* and thats a compliment were i come fromI'm still trying to figure out how I got listed as Knowledgeable.
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A monitor is not someone who has been deemed AAS guru or even knowledgeable in AAS use but has shown good judgment and maturity and is appointed as monitor to supervises or maintain order.
Ill be sure to take it as nothing less than a compliment then.
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A monitor is not someone who has been deemed AAS guro or even knoledgable in AAS use but has shown good judgment and maturity and is appinted as monitor to supervises or maintain order.
Ill be sure to take it as nothing less than a compliment then.
Well i dident no that.. So dont take offence to what i said. Dont ban me i never ment disrespect!!!!!
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A monitor is not someone who has been deemed AAS guro or even knoledgable in AAS use but has shown good judgment and maturity and is appinted as monitor to supervises or maintain order.
Ill be sure to take it as nothing less than a compliment then.
Thanks lovByts for explaining to this retard Aussy
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Right!!!! History lesson who was the only army in the field during germanys summer offensive 1918???? Who made up less than 10% of the British army but captured 40% of the prisoners and guns? Who was first to defeat the japs and germans in ww2??? Your own english government said the australian solider was without equal. Your men in ww1 were like five foot six and pale while the average australian was six foot and tanned So dont be rasict to my country!!!!!!! Your the useless ones who needed half a million men to stop the bores who were what 40000 men strong... Ahh and we made it threw both world wars with out conscription a feat no other nation could muster..Thanks lovByts for explaining to this retard Aussy
The sooner we become a republic the better... Enjoy your homo big eared king!!
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Im reporting the hate crime personal attack to admin marcus300
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Is that all you can muster a history lesson well here's one
Australia was used as a prison for us to send criminals to to take them away from decent society so with this in mind it's fair to say that your most probably the relative of a category a criminal
Also do you know what a pome is???
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My parents are croatian/german so no im not a convict aussie. Dont hate me cause my island is bigger and better in everyway. More resources more sun more hot women better rugby/cricket team. Shall i go on? Hopefully scotland breaks away when they vote.
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And yes imamember of the australian republican party so the sooner we break away from the comeanwealth the better.
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Well I WASN'T hating but this is the second time recently that you've casted aspersions on a, predominantly, AAS site that has staff that doesn't use.
Oh, and FYI your cricket team is currently an embarrassment both in and off the pitch and your sports system is in complete disarray with the recent leaking of the steroid scandal.
Personally I don't care if Oz is part of the Commonwealth or not. I had an amazing time when I spent 10 weeks there and met some amazing people. I suspect one of those people wasn't you.
Maybe you should write a book when you retire next year, How To Lose Friends And Alienate People would be a good title.
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