Just did 1st im quad injection, whats the big deal

[austinite]

I am relaxed Just pointing out that that IM Quad is not as easy as its made out to be.

Once the quad scars up, pushing the needle in is not so easy.

The day you hit a nerve, quad injections will never be the same.

Not sure about that. Been hitting my quads for years. Sure there is scar tissue. Still a large area. Any muscle would have the same issues. I hit scar tissue in my delts and traps all the time.

The point is, if it works for someone, great. It's certainly not for everyone. Nerves get his once in a while. It's not catastrophic

[GFA]

Not sure about that. Been hitting my quads for years. Sure there is scar tissue. Still a large area. Any muscle would have the same issues. I hit scar tissue in my delts and traps all the time.

The point is, if it works for someone, great. It's certainly not for everyone. Nerves get his once in a while. It's not catastrophic

I hate hitting nerves. When your leg instantly flexes and you spaz out. I am terrified of breaking the needle when that happens. Luckily only happened twice where my leg spazzed out.

Anyways Im doing an experiment using SQ and test to see if its as effective as IM. First go around in the belly wasnt positive, now I'm trying SQ into thigh. If it works, Ill switch to SQ thigh. Ill have results in a month.

[austinite]

I hate hitting nerves. When your leg instantly flexes and you spaz out. I am terrified of breaking the needle when that happens. Luckily only happened twice where my leg spazzed out.

Anyways Im doing an experiment using SQ and test to see if its as effective as IM. First go around in the belly wasnt positive, now I'm trying SQ into thigh. If it works, Ill switch to SQ thigh. Ill have results in a month.

Yeah it's no fun. I agree. For volumes 1/2 an ML or less, I always go subQ. Easy as pie.

[ghettoboyd]

I hate hitting nerves. When your leg instantly flexes and you spaz out. I am terrified of breaking the needle when that happens. Luckily only happened twice where my leg spazzed out.

Anyways Im doing an experiment using SQ and test to see if its as effective as IM. First go around in the belly wasnt positive, now I'm trying SQ into thigh. If it works, Ill switch to SQ thigh. Ill have results in a month.

that's why I insert the pin in the quads very slowly...ive hit a few nerves enough now that when I go slow I can feel im about to hit one so I eather pull out and try again or change the angle of the pin a bit and try again...haven't hit a nerve in years...

[Java Man]

that's why I insert the pin in the quads very slowly...ive hit a few nerves enough now that when I go slow I can feel im about to hit one so I eather pull out and try again or change the angle of the pin a bit and try again...haven't hit a nerve in years...

This is what I do too. 25g, 1" . Never hit a nerve or artery. Going slow on insertion you can feel if youre near a nerve. Only nerve I ever hit lower body is sciatic when doing glutes. I NEVER shot glutes again after that. Like getting struck by lightning. First time in quads I had PIP so bad I was limping for 3 days but it gets better over time. I don't get any PIP at all anymore.

[FRDave]

Anyways Im doing an experiment using SQ and test to see if its as effective as IM. First go around in the belly wasnt positive, now I'm trying SQ into thigh. If it works, Ill switch to SQ thigh. Ill have results in a month.

I currently inject 50mg (every 3.5 dsys) sub-Q in the glutes and test levels were at 749, so location can make the difference as I did not feel the belly was giving same results... Was curious to try the thigh though as it would be much easier than hitting the left glute (being right handed makes it a bit harder). What exact location of the thigh do you inject sub-Q??? Have a pic by any chance? I can only find the IM location, but my legs are pretty lean...

Thanks in advance,
Dave

[GFA]

I currently inject 50mg (every 3.5 dsys) sub-Q in the glutes and test levels were at 749, so location can make the difference as I did not feel the belly was giving same results... Was curious to try the thigh though as it would be much easier than hitting the left glute (being right handed makes it a bit harder). What exact location of the thigh do you inject sub-Q??? Have a pic by any chance? I can only find the IM location, but my legs are pretty lean...

Thanks in advance,
Dave

Middle outter, same place I do IM injections. For SQ, I pinch skin, inject and release. I used a slin pin last time too 30g, 5/16 inch needle. Completely painless. I hope it works because I honestly hate IM injections now. Too much anxiety after hitting a few nerves.

@jasondd, like another poster said, try going slow because the day you hit a nerve, you will see why it can be mentally damaging.

[FRDave]

Middle outter, same place I do IM injections. For SQ, I pinch skin, inject and release. I used a slin pin last time too 30g, 5/16 inch needle. Completely painless. I hope it works because I honestly hate IM injections now. Too much anxiety after hitting a few nerves.

@jasondd, like another poster said, try going slow because the day you hit a nerve, you will see why it can be mentally damaging.

I use a 26g 3/8" needle (slighly longer than yours), but seems like it would be IM as I have very little fat on my legs... If I squeeze and inject then release skin (normal sub-Q injection technique I use), is there a chance the needle can still hit IM once I release the skin or am I good to go?

Thanks again,
Dave

[Trific]

I use a 26g 3/8" needle (slighly longer than yours), but seems like it would be IM as I have very little fat on my legs... If I squeeze and inject then release skin (normal sub-Q injection technique I use), is there a chance the needle can still hit IM once I release the skin or am I good to go?

It might be shallow IM...kinda in the gray area....but fairly painless and seems to work.

[GFA]

I use a 26g 3/8" needle (slighly longer than yours), but seems like it would be IM as I have very little fat on my legs... If I squeeze and inject then release skin (normal sub-Q injection technique I use), is there a chance the needle can still hit IM once I release the skin or am I good to go?

Thanks again,
Dave

No idea, Im guessing its possible its IM but how deep could it be if you are pinching skin? Ill know soon if it works for me using this method. There are many variables like age, bf% and so on. Just looking for an alternative to IM that works.

[jasondd1]

Middle outter, same place I do IM injections. For SQ, I pinch skin, inject and release. I used a slin pin last time too 30g, 5/16 inch needle. Completely painless. I hope it works because I honestly hate IM injections now. Too much anxiety after hitting a few nerves.

@jasondd, like another poster said, try going slow because the day you hit a nerve, you will see why it can be mentally damaging.

Yeah I didn't jab it at all. I very slowly slid it in, I kept waiting for pain but none.

[GFA]

Yeah I didn't jab it at all. I very slowly slid it in, I kept waiting for pain but none.

Most of the time it is painless. Other times once you get past the skin it wont move (scar tissue). Then there is the dreaded hit a nerve injection. The first time I hit a nerve it freaked me out and I pulled the needle out instantly. Hard to describe the sensation but imagine you are in a deep sleep and someone punches you in the face. Ya that describes it.

SQ is the way to go if it works. No scarring and you have to go under the skin for IM anyway.