Test c and winny Cycle

[Sfla80]

Sfa80 used to be Goode80 4th cycle...(first log)
age: 33
Weight: 178#
Height: 5'9"
Bf % 15%-16%
Experenice: 3 cycles, Test/deca (5wks, stupid no reasearch and free gear),Test (bunk), test/mast (was told underdosed, Kalapa ended this cycle in 8 wks)
Goals: Add LBM and Lose some BF.

Have had made great gains with out gear but once met my fiance, we ended up partying alot, and dieting went out. Been serious about again, and even more knowledgeable now then before.

Cycle: Belgian Blue Products
Wks 1-12 Test c 500mg/wk...250/mon...250/thurs
Wks 2-13 Hcg 500mg/wk...250/tues....250/friday
wks 2-13 L-dex .25 EOD
wks 8-14 Liquid Oral winny 75-100mg/Ed

Side note, have enough gear for two cycles, so i also have anavar too, so might be possibilty the wiiny will be anavar. Still up in the air. Either way next cycle will use the other. Im up for suggestion on why to run one or the other.

PCT:
wks 14-18 Clomid 100/50/50/50
wks 14-18 Nolva 40/20/20/20

Supplements:
L-arginine, l-citrulline, horny Goat weed, Mens one a day, NAC, Liv52, Injectable b-12 (1000/twice a week), Cialis 2x5mg. (feel like im missing something)

Diet:
Tdee: 2200
Daily intake 2600-2900 cals per day

Foods Choices:

Types of Proteins:
Eggs, Tenderloin, 93/7 Ground beef, whey iso, Flank steak, Shrimp, Chicken, Sirloin
Salmon, and Ground turkey

Types of Carbs:
Sweet pot, Oats,Short grain Brown rice, Bulgar wheat, Quinoa, Couscous

Types of Veggies: (where i need help...well more dedication)
Brussles Green Beans
Butternut
Spinach
Asparagass

Also, blue berries, raseberry, and strawberry, for shakes and oatmeal.

Dieting problems i forsee....Late night eating, Date nights with fiance, and snacking at work.

Workout Routine:
Dorians Blood n Guts Routine, except broken down like this:
Monday: Legs
Tuesday: Chest/Carido
Wednesday: Back
Thursday: Cardio
Friday: Shoulders
Saturday: Cardio
Sunday: Arms

Just ordered body tape measure and will get complete measurements and check throughout cycle.

Any thoughts are more then welcome. Will be updating just about everyday.

Thanks

[Live for the PUMP]

Why not use the VAR to kick start? Good luck on this cycle. Seems you have had some bad luck in the past.

[Sfla80]

Why not use the VAR to kick start? Good luck on this cycle. Seems you have had some bad luck in the past.

That was the first plan. Been advised and seen many people say never use two orals.

And too much bad luck. Lol :/

[Sfla80]

Heres a few pics.

First pin today. 250mg test c and 1000mg b12.

Going to the gym now for legs.



Hate taking pics of myself for one. let alone posting them. But would like feed back if anyone wants to.

[Sfla80]

Ended day at little over 3300 cals. Too much food today. Will make smaller meals tomorrow.

Leg workout killed it, even though the gym was overly packed.

Leg press- 2warm up, 1 working
V-squat- 1warm 1 working
Lying leg curl
Extensions
Sitting calf raise

[Sfla80]

So instead of carrying around a notebook at the gym this will be mine here, log everything so I have record and progress.

Today was chest/cardio and killed it.

All workouts are first excersise 2 warm up, 1 working, then rest of them are 1 warm up and 1 working.

Decline BB working set was 240# for 8 reps, then one assisted ( felt great next week will add at least 10 pounds, if a spotter around)
Incline DB 85# 7 reps
Flat DB flys 45# 8 reps
Was going to cable but all were packed so did: Incline Db flys 40# 8 reps

then finished off with 22 mins fat burning routine on the stepper. Each day will add time and speed on this.

Will edit this tonight with finish total cals for the day. So will be finishing the day at 2800. Here's my break down. Thinking this will be my consistent days intake until I notice that I need to change. Any advise on diet break down is welcome.

[Sfla80]

Back and Abs this morning. Very good workout, just annoying. People hog the machines lol.

Warm up 2sets of wide grip pull up.
DB pull over 2 warm up 1 working 85# for 7 reps
Db rows 80# 8 reps
Close grip pull down 160# 7 reps
Wide grip pull down 150# 5 reps ( usually do wide grip rows, but two women did about 16-20 sets total walking back and forth from treadmill to row machine. Was on it the entre time I was there!!!)
Standing lat pull downs

Finished with abs, don't know names of the excersises but a very good routine.

Will edit later with finished macros.

Fiance has been doing great on her diet, so we decided to have date night. Had some good sushi, but don't think it killed my diet that much. So not worring about it. Keep her happy all that matters lol.

[Sfla80]

Second pin today. Didn't mix b12 because its hard to control the pinning, since it seperates. Any suggestions here are helpful.

Off day, did 20 minutes stepper, fat burning rouine.

Ending day at 2652 cals.

[Sfla80]

Shoulders and abs today, killed them, barely lift my arms up when I left.

Db press 75# for 8 reps
Db lateral raise 35# 7 reps
Bent over Db raise 35# 6 reps
Cable raise 30#

Abs to finish.

Vascularity is through the roof with the help a GD new added supplements and times to take. Viens in calves, shoulders, and chest coming in now.

[Sfla80]

Started hcg today, and have a question, but will post in Q&A. Noticing apthrophy (spelling) lol.

Arms today.

Tris:

Cable pull down 160# 8 reps into 120# drop set
Db over head 85#6 reps
Flat skulls 80# 8 reps into 60#drop

Bis:

Concentration curls 35# 8 reps
Standing Db curls, straight no rotating 35# 8 reps into 25# drop
Cable curl (shoulder level) 50# 6 reps

Felt good! Vascularity is great, jst need more color to show more.....too white lol.

[Sfla80]

First week done, 3rd pin today.

Leg day

Leg press: 630x8reps
Hack squat: 230x8reps
Extensions: 210x6 reps
Leg curl: 120x8reps
Lying curls: 140x6reps
Sitting calves: 45x45reps

Why is Monday at the gym the craziest day, I hate Mondays. Had one guy there doing v-squats for the entire 40 mins I was in the gym.

[Sfla80]

Chest day and second hcg pin. Also started L-dex today.

Decline bench:245# 8reps, 9th rep with spot complete failure, spotter sucked though pulled bar back even when I asked for one more. but still felt good, next week 255.
incline Db: 85# 8 reps, next week 90's
flat db flys: 50# 6reps
Cable flys, (Free motion machine so #'s are different) did high and low flys two sets each

Finished with 15 mins on stepper, fat burning routine. Couldn't finish 20mins, was spent.

[Buster Brown]

Nice log so far. Might want to look into carb cycling. I found it super useful last cycle and continue to use it in an attempt to keep from putting on fat either on or off cycle. Will be checking in!

[Sfla80]

Nice log so far. Might want to look into carb cycling. I found it super useful last cycle and continue to use it in an attempt to keep from putting on fat either on or off cycle. Will be checking in!

Thanks for the advise buster, I'm going to look into carb cycling. And might start it when I start the oral at week 8.

[Sfla80]

Back day

Intensity wasn't there today, me and the fiancé had a bad argument last night. Today is usually one of the days we go to the gym together and when she woke up sh told me she wasn't going. So mind wasn't completely in it today. Still did decent though.

Db pull over 85# for 8 reps
Hammer strength rows 3 plates each side 8 reps (my grip gives out first on db rows so decided to change it up)
Wide grip bar rows 180# 6 reps
Wide grip pull down 155# 8 reps

All in all still no a bad work out.

[Sfla80]

4th pin today and dose of dex. Up 5#. Just from diet I believe. Been consistent at 26-2700 cals for a day.

Off day today. Did 20 mins stepper fat burning routine. Before work.

Always eat before cardio. What feelings on empty stomach cardio while on cycle?

Feeling good no issues.

[itsjayman02]

I do get better results from fasted cardio I just don't get to do it often but when I reach a plateau I do two sessions the first am the second at least 8 hours later ......works for me!!

[Sfla80]

I do get better results from fasted cardio I just don't get to do it often but when I reach a plateau I do two sessions the first am the second at least 8 hours later ......works for me!!

Just never tried it before. My biggest issue is my schedule, and if decided to fast before cardio, my meals will get out of order, and some days I will lose out in that first meal of the day. Two of my cardio only days, I work 12-14 hours. So not much time in between. Not sayin impossible for me to do, just have to figure out how to switch it up.

[Sfla80]

Shoulders today:

Db 80# 6reps (needed spot for lift off, but banged out the 6 reps on my own. and no one knows how to spot or lift the excersise. Guy tried pulling my one arm up before the other, almost lost them then he walked away so no forced rep only failure)
Lateral raise 30# 8 reps
Bent overraise 40# 7 reps
cable raise 30# 6 reps

[< <Samson> >]

A quality spotter would make such a huge difference.

I had a guy spot me last time. He's real cool and knows his shit.

I did have one fool a while back spot me on shoulders. He like tied to lift the whole dumbbell.

[Sfla80]

Have to be very picky when asking for a spot for now on lol. But only need it really with two excersises.

Arm day. Pin hcg also.

Tris

Pull downs 170x8
Db over head 85#x6
Incline skulls 90#x7

Bis

Seated db curls 40#x6
Seated concentration curls 40# x 7 (using other arm to force reps)
And then everyone in the gym was doing bis today, so switched it up and hit this "free motion" machine/cable. Did high reps just to burn them out. Don't like the machine but no choice.

Pump was amazing today! Switch pre workout sup dosage to aust protocol. Felt like veins were going to explode.

[Sfla80]

5th pin today

Leg Day. Will update weight tomorrow

Squats for the first time in over 6 months. 275#x5 (been so long didn't want to go for more. felt good though)
hack squat 230#x7
extensions 210#8
Leg curl 125#x8
Sitting calves raise and standing to finish off.

Feeling good, strength is up some. Heres a leg pic...sorry if u are blinded by the whiteness. Would look a lot better with some color.

[Sfla80]

Chest day. Pin of Hcg also.

Weighed in this morning, first thing as soon as I woke up. Up 6.5#. 184#

Decline BB 260# 7 reps, Personal best for weight and reps.
Incline Db 90#6 reps
Flat Db flys 45#8reps
Cable flys high and low to finish iit off.

Feeling great, cant say its working yet, but I think my training and mind set has taken over.

[Buster Brown]

Having someone spot you that can "read you" makes a ton of difference. Forced reps, negatives, and rest/pause all need to be done with someone that has a clue or else you don't get the full benefit out of the technique.

[Sfla80]

Having someone spot you that can "read you" makes a ton of difference. Forced reps, negatives, and rest/pause all need to be done with someone that has a clue or else you don't get the full benefit out of the technique.

Definitely true buster. And luckily this guy does chest same time and same day as me. Just different routine. So last three weeks we have been spotting each other. Just need to find someone on shoulder day and I'm gtg

[Sfla80]

6th pin today. Back day.

Yesterday was an off day. Worked 13 hrs. For some reason Mondays pin is bothering me. Maybe hit scar tissue or unsteady hand. All other pins have had no pip so figured this one was my fault lol.

Db pullover 85# 8 reps
Db rows 85# 7 reps
Close grip rows 180 6reps
Wide grip pull downs 175 7reps

[Sfla80]

Hcg and dex today and shoulder day

smith machine press 185#x6resps drop 135
Lat raise 45#x5 reps ( gym a disaster today couldn't find any dumbbells, should have used 40's) drop 25
Pec dec machine 120x 8 drop 75
cableraise 35# 6 reps

[Sfla80]

Havent been able to make it to the computer, so haven't updated in a few days. Not much anyways. Diet went out the window sunday and Monday cause of my engagement party, and Monday leftovers and feeling like shit anyways. Will be back on my game now though. Have had pin #7 on Monday and dex, also hcg was yesterday.

Did legs and abs yesterday. Very hard to go beyond failure with legs, so ive been sticking to a tyical 2-3 working sets on my compound movements until I can figure out how to get to failure.

Also abs, not sure if its just a cramp or hernia, but more times then not, going into 2-3 excerisise/set of abs, I get a severe cramp in lower abdomen, right where the "v" is in the pelvic area. I can actuallys push it back in to makeit stop. Which sounds like hernia to me, but no pain or discomfort any other times except on abs.

[Sfla80]

Chest day

Decline 270# 6 reps, last one spotted. 10# increase from last week, so from here on all personal bests
incline Db 95# 6 reps only needed a lift up, then on my own, and to complete failure
Flat db flys 55# 8 reps
High cable flys

Strength is definitely increasing with ach and every workout. Could have a lot to do with new training and up calories.

All in all happy with how everything is going. No sides. Do get night sweats as I always do anyways. But tht is it so far.

Ill weigh in tomorrow, and might have fiancé do some measurements tonight.

[livingthedream]

I see you track with my fitnesspal. Did you calculate your own tdee or let the app tell your cals. I am finding the net calorie Idea in the app is working well. It's pretty close. I track everything I eat as well as any gym time.

[Sfla80]

I see you track with my fitnesspal. Did you calculate your own tdee or let the app tell your cals. I am finding the net calorie Idea in the app is working well. It's pretty close. I track everything I eat as well as any gym time.

I use it in the beginning of a new diet routine. After I get the certain diet down. It's pretty much the same all the time so for about two weeks or logging my foods I know what to eat.

As far as tdee goes I followed the guys in the nutrition section, and with help from them and 405 got my tdee. The app has me kinda high at 2500, I have myself at 2200 right now.

[Sfla80]

8th pin today, and dose of dex

Back day:

3 warm up sets to get blood flowing, pull ups. normal grip, medium wide, fully wide

Hammerstrenth pull overs machine
Hammer strength 135x8reps for each arm.
Wide grip row machine, 195#x6 reps
close grip pull downs 175#x6reps
Standing lat pull downs, burn outs

[Sfla80]

Went to gym twice yesterday, back in the morning ^^^, then went with finace and did 30mins treadmill, every 2 mins changing speed and incline, till I got to fll 15% incline top speed was 4.1, then back down and up, just kept switching speed/incline the whole time.


Today was shoulders, and hcg. weighed n this morning first thing at 185.7#, up a good 7-8#

Sittin BB military (free weight) 170x4 drop to 135x4
Lat raise 35#x8 drop 25x6
bent over raise 40x6 drop 25x6
Cable raise 35x6
Db shrugs 75xfailure

[Sfla80]

Cardio day, same as above.

Treadmill, 30 mins and ramping speed and incline, up and down through out the time.

Definitely feeling good. Noticing little bf decreasing and strength has been rising everyday.

No sides. Night sweets are just me I believe but could be the test.

Dex today also

[Sfla80]

Arms today, killed it. Pump was amazing

Tris:

Db over head 85# 8 reps drop to 65#
Flat skulls 90# 6 reps drop to 70#
Cable rope pull down 100# drop to 70#

Bis:

EZ bar curl (outer grip) 90# 6reps drop 60#
Hammer curls 40# drop 25#
Cable level curl 60# drop to 40#

Viens going cross shoulder to chest now. Losing bf, need to continue cardio and more of it.

[Sfla80]

Week 5 started, 9th pin.

Legs today:

Smith squats, legs slightly in front of shoulders 235#-9reps
Leg press 680# 8 reps
Leg extension 245# 6 reps
lying Leg curl 125# 6 reps
leg curl 120 6 reps
Seated calve raise 90# failure

Weighed myself just to see what im at during the day, was at 188#. That's after four meals.

[Sfla80]

Chest day, hcg and dex

Decline BB 275# 5 reps. was fatigued this morning but still pushing it, Weight keeps rising
Incline DB 100# 6 reps
Inlcine flys 45# 6 reps
Bent over even cable Flys failure

Pics will wait until next week, which will be half way through cycle. I feel full, and like bf is droping some. Shirts are tighter in arms and chest. They are getting "shorter" lol if that makes sense. I do not think my pics do me justice, I hate taking them. lol

[Sfla80]

Figured I would just ask here been enough questions about pip. But yesterday's pin was in right glute. Same as the one 2 weeks ago that have me the same pip I'm having now. All other pins have zero pip. Can't even tell I pinned. So I even gave this spot at least 14 days in between pins and still this time again hurts. Even slightly changed the spot, to miss scar tissue.

So two questions: could one spot grow more scar tissue then others and faster?

With this pip, I'm having lower back pains, almost feels like kidney stone but not to the extent. Maybe just back issues, but would this have to do with the pip? Same side btw

[Sfla80]

Back day

Pull ups o warm up
Db pull over 90# 7 reps
Db rows 90# 6 reps
Close grip seated rows 195# 6 reps
Wide grip pull downs 175# 6 reps

[Sfla80]

Wasn't going to continue logging, but I will. Good way to track my progress.

Been a few days, Legs yesterday and chest and cardio today.

Hitting personal best on every lift now. bdyfat is lowering, and size is coming on. Im going to switch my diet up this week, to a low carb diet. Need to post it in nutrition section since this will be a first time trying one. I want to keep my cals about where they are 2500 on average, so I want to hit this mark but with half the carbs.

Will start loggin excerisises again tomorrow.

Yesterday was start of 6th week.