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    ok my source just told me if i order the clomid in bulk, he'll get it for me so i just got 100 pills of clomid and 100 of nolva for this pct. I'll have it by monday so this crises may have just been averted. Still, if anyone's reading, I'd like to know if I should wait 2 weeks after last pin to start the pct, if i should again include HCG to aid PCT and/or if I should just run PCT dosages immediately after my last shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanC11B View Post
    ok my source just told me if i order the clomid in bulk, he'll get it for me so i just got 100 pills of clomid and 100 of nolva for this pct. I'll have it by monday so this crises may have just been averted. Still, if anyone's reading, I'd like to know if I should wait 2 weeks after last pin to start the pct, if i should again include HCG to aid PCT and/or if I should just run PCT dosages immediately after my last shot.
    I believe the best way to run your HCG and PCT is to carry on with the HCG after your last test pin until 4 days before you start PCT. PCT should be started 14 days after your last pin because until then your test levels will still be too high from the built up ester for the restart to do anything. The idea being that the HCG maintains the test producing capability of your balls to near max so that when the clomid does its stuff and stimulates LH and FSH secretion naturally again that signal will result in a decent amount of test being produced by you straight away rather than only 10% of the former levels until your balls ramp up again as would've happened if you hadnt run HCG. You need to stop the HCG before the PCT because it acts as a false LH signal (how it keeps your balls making test) so until it is gone your body wont produce its own even with the clomid.

    Im not sure re whether to run nolva all the way through as most people use an AI for their on cycle estrogen and then stop it before PCT so maybe someone else knows, i think it would make sense to run it all the way through though.

    Also nice progress so far, you can tell you've recomped quite a bit and dropped a good amount of bodyfat from your last pic and the before. Also is not easy to keep on top of everything either when working 2 jobs and having a weird time in personal life so kudos.
    Last edited by avl; 07-31-2013 at 08:51 AM.

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