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    Let's make one thing clear Martial Arts is not MMA. MMA is a combination of ALL forms of combat training.
    And several links suggest Boxing is #1 . Open your mind stop being bias and think for a minute if Boxing is regarded #1 and Wrestling #5 with Martial arts #6 and MMA incubuses all of these and so mush more it would incline you to come to the conclusion that if there was such a sport that want by the name of MMA it would in fact be #1

    Lebron can't even handle the NBA without crying about a simple smack. But you seem to believe he could play in the NFL or compete in MMA. Really ?? You honestly can't be serious.

    And just because your good at a certain sport doesn't mean you'll excel at others.

    Mike Tyson said it best. " Everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the face".
    NFL n NBA players excel at their sports respectfully but then again its a team sport. Where would these guys be without there teams ??? No where.

    Look at Lebron for instance he couldn't get it done by himself in Cleveland . So he sold out along with others to create a super team. To do what he couldn't on his own.

    I could post a million more links to educated people in the know regarding combat sports above teams sports but you'll still argue that too.
    Which is fine. But judging from your name its clear your way too bias to ever agree even if its god himself saying it.

    Brock Lesnar was giving that title to sell tickets point blank. End of story . You know it full n clear no reason to argue it.


    Since we are talking who's the most athletic figures of all sports at this put in time.

    Let's see about this take your best NBA or NFL star and pit them against the champion in the UFC of their weight class and see how well they fair in the octagon.

    Since combat sports are a true measure of WHO'S better of 2 individuals .

    And not a measure of who's faster or quicker or benches the most.
    Its a measure of who's better .

    Not of who can run the fastest in perfect condition. Or push a sled. Or make a 3pt.

    Take all the pads. Balls, teammates,shoes everything out the picture. And who's the best at this point in time. MMA wins hands down every time .

    Also combat sports have been around Far longer then any team sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB1982 View Post
    Let's make one thing clear Martial Arts is not MMA. MMA is a combination of ALL forms of combat training.
    And several links suggest Boxing is #1 . Open your mind stop being bias and think for a minute if Boxing is regarded #1 and Wrestling #5 with Martial arts #6 and MMA incubuses all of these and so mush more it would incline you to come to the conclusion that if there was such a sport that want by the name of MMA it would in fact be #1

    Lebron can't even handle the NBA without crying about a simple smack. But you seem to believe he could play in the NFL or compete in MMA. Really ?? You honestly can't be serious.

    And just because your good at a certain sport doesn't mean you'll excel at others.

    Mike Tyson said it best. " Everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the face".
    NFL n NBA players excel at their sports respectfully but then again its a team sport. Where would these guys be without there teams ??? No where.

    Look at Lebron for instance he couldn't get it done by himself in Cleveland . So he sold out along with others to create a super team. To do what he couldn't on his own.

    I could post a million more links to educated people in the know regarding combat sports above teams sports but you'll still argue that too.
    Which is fine. But judging from your name its clear your way too bias to ever agree even if its god himself saying it.

    Brock Lesnar was giving that title to sell tickets point blank. End of story . You know it full n clear no reason to argue it.


    Since we are talking who's the most athletic figures of all sports at this put in time.

    Let's see about this take your best NBA or NFL star and pit them against the champion in the UFC of their weight class and see how well they fair in the octagon.

    Since combat sports are a true measure of WHO'S better of 2 individuals .

    And not a measure of who's faster or quicker or benches the most.
    Its a measure of who's better .

    Not of who can run the fastest in perfect condition. Or push a sled. Or make a 3pt.

    Take all the pads. Balls, teammates,shoes everything out the picture. And who's the best at this point in time. MMA wins hands down every time .

    Also combat sports have been around Far longer then any team sport.
    A few things first. I have an open mind on most topics, including this one. Yes, basketball is my favorite sport; but I love MMA too. I think it is you who has more bias because you train MMA. Secondly, implying I won't read your links is ridiculous. I clearly read all of the links you posted; that is why I commented on their comparing the sports and not the athletes.

    You can't be serious about LeBron. He played football all through high school, you do know? His crying about being hit has nothing to do with toughness as it does about getting the call. He is not actually hurt when he gets fouled. Have you not seen how many NFL general managers have expressed interest in giving LeBron a shot? Also I have never said that LeBron could just enter the NFL or even the UFC. I said if he played it his whole life like he has basketball, then he would be able to.

    You continue to argue about sport versus sport. Let's simplify this as much as possible. Name the greatest athletes in MMA. Personally, I believe the top two are Jon Jones and Georges St. Pierre. If you think someone else is superior, then name them. Now using the athletic attributes I included in one of my other posts, compare these two with AP, LeBron, Reggie Bush, Calvin Johnson, etc. The ONLY attribute I see Jon and GSP being superior in is endurance. That's it! The article you just linked does the best job in arguing the point; but just because they include the name LeBron James, doesn't hide the fact that they are comparing the SPORTS. Another problem is that article is not written by experts. I can link random articles from Bleacher Report that support my claim. Also the way the author rated only a FEW of the possible athletic attributes is greatly flawed. MMA requires more strength than football? Not even close. Have you ever watched the Combine before. NFL (not just football) players are insanely strong.

    Beyond the eye test which shows that the athletes in the NFL and NBA are superior to the likes of Matt Mitrione, Lyoto Machida, and Chael Sonnen, you really believe in the short time that MMA has been around that the best athletes in the world decided to take it up. Read what Jon Jones has to say about this argument. His two brothers play in the NFL. He maintains that the athletes in the NFL (not football players) are superior to the athletes in the UFC. Don't think of it as Jon Jones the MMA fighter and Adrian Peterson the football player, but instead throw away the respective sports they are apart of. Think of it as Jon Jones the person and Adrian Peterson the person.

    Finally Brock got his title shot because of tickets, correct; but he still had to WIN the fights he was in! He beat the fighters he was put in front of.

    You keep knocking team sports and argue how much more noble individual sports are which is fine, but we are looking at the best athletes in the particular sport. Also "who can run the fastest" is a very important aspect of athleticism and so is raw strength or "who can bench the most" like you say. Those are athletic qualities.
    Last edited by basketballfan22; 07-06-2013 at 12:54 PM.

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