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[basketballfan22]

I will not fault your opinion cause your 22. I would advice you to keep a more open mind, especially cause your only 22.
Mma takes just as much athleticism as football and vise versa. Many things mma guys can do balance wise that football guys couldn't and again, vise versa.
Its not about who is a better athlete to which sport and you have not competed at both sports nor close to a pro level so your opinion does not have much validity. I do like hearing your point of view nonetheless.

I am excited for tomo night

I am actually 24, the "22" in my username is due to the fact that that is my favorite number. Also your comment about my opinion's not having much validity is exactly what I said in the second paragraph of the post you quoted. People think that because they played football before that it isn't that hard, but I am examining the athletes at the professional level.

[basketballfan22]

Top 10: Hardest Sports - AskMen


This ESPN chart shows boxing at number 1. And Martial art #5 and everybody can agree MMA is a sport where it takes the best of all forms of combat sports.
So it would easily be #1

ESPN.com: Page 2 - Sport Skills Difficulty Rankings

Another.

The Most Demanding Sports List

What Makes MMA Fighters Different Than Other Athletes? | Bleacher Report

I could go on and on about this but it seems I'm not the only one who believes MMA is at the Top of athleticism. While the some my list boxing that's simple because the is no such sport listed as Mixed Martial Arts. But MMA incubuses all forms of combat including Boxing Wrestling n Martial arts which were ranked respectfully at #1 ,5 & 6. .

Take what you want from this but I still feel the same MMA is top dog they are the toughest of all athletes .

Now that is the type of information I like. I think there is a bit of a disconnect between me and you though. I am not necessarily arguing which sports are harder; I am arguing about the ATHLETES CURRENTLY taking part in the NFL, NBA, and MMA. There is no denying that MMA is a sport that requires a lot of skills. If a person excelled in the athletic areas I mentioned before, there is no denying that he/she would be a beast. The fact that possessing such athletic qualities would benefit one in MMA shows that MMA is a very demanding sport.

The point I have been trying to make (since the initial reference of Jon Jones) is that the level of athlete at the highest level in football and basketball is superior to the level of athlete you see in MMA. That is not a shot at the sport at all. Please tell me you agree that if Adrian Peterson and LeBron James practiced in the many facets of MMA their entire lives, then they would be MONSTERS! I am merely suggesting (for the reasons that have been discussed ad nauseum) that the incentive for the absolute best athletes to participate in MMA over football and basketball is nonexistent, at least for now. I won't necessarily say that MMA as a sport requires more athleticism, but that is an entirely different argument regardless.

Like I mentioned before, the path to make it to the NFL is A LOT harder and more competitive than the path to make it to the UFC. You have to play the sport your whole life, compete at a very high level, go to a big name university and play excellent there, go to the Combine and demonstrate your athleticism, then hopefully get drafted. The same road does not exist for the UFC. Have you ever watched The Ultimate Fighter, lol?

[pawn master]

GSP was on Tim and Sid today (a local Toronto sports talk show Fan 590) and they asked him about Dana Whites comments that he is ducking A. Silva. GSP said " I will fight anybody at 170 I am not prepared to fight anyone at 185 at this point in my career". He went on to say that Hendricks is unlike anyone he has ever fought before and that he thinks its his biggest test yet. He also ducked the will Wiedman beat Silva tomorrow question only saying he has confidence in him and that he will be champion one day. He is as good at ducking in the ring has he is on radio. Yes I know hes a great fighter and he wins but will he ever be considered the best pound for pound? I do not think so.

[basketballfan22]

GSP was on Tim and Sid today (a local Toronto sports talk show Fan 590) and they asked him about Dana Whites comments that he is ducking A. Silva. GSP said " I will fight anybody at 170 I am not prepared to fight anyone at 185 at this point in my career". He went on to say that Hendricks is unlike anyone he has ever fought before and that he thinks its his biggest test yet. He also ducked the will Wiedman beat Silva tomorrow question only saying he has confidence in him and that he will be champion one day. He is as good at ducking in the ring has he is on radio. Yes I know hes a great fighter and he wins but will he ever be considered the best pound for pound? I do not think so.

Well when you have Silva and Jon Jones, I don't think that is necessarily a knock on GSP for not being the best pound-for-pound fighter, lol. He is correct though. He has NEVER fought at middleweight before. Silva has fought a few times at light heavyweight. The idea that GSP should fight Silva is more absurd than the idea for Silva to fight Jones.

[Zodiac82]

Give me one worthy opponent he has beat. Chose wisely! He is now famous cause the title shot he has been given. Its almost as bad as Micheal b. Thinking he was at Silva s level and belfort quickly reminded him that he is not close.

Tom lawlor....while hes not the cream of the crop...hes no pushovers....Demian Maia....and Mark Munoz...the guy cant help who's put in front of him....he has to go out and win just like everyone else...I wouldn't say hes famous because of the title shot hes getting....I said to myself months ago I think this is the guy to beat Silva....in fact I think Vitor can still beat Silva....he got caught with something no one does(in my opinion a lucky kick)...but I digress...

in any case I believe this will be one hell of a card

-Beast Mode-

[gearbox]

GSP was on Tim and Sid today (a local Toronto sports talk show Fan 590) and they asked him about Dana Whites comments that he is ducking A. Silva. GSP said " I will fight anybody at 170 I am not prepared to fight anyone at 185 at this point in my career". He went on to say that Hendricks is unlike anyone he has ever fought before and that he thinks its his biggest test yet. He also ducked the will Wiedman beat Silva tomorrow question only saying he has confidence in him and that he will be champion one day. He is as good at ducking in the ring has he is on radio. Yes I know hes a great fighter and he wins but will he ever be considered the best pound for pound? I do not think so.

I will start by saying I love gsp. he brings a very high level of athleticism talent and desire. however he has too many wins that go to five rounds and he does not do much damage sometimes or often. yes he opposes his will on his opponents and is always in control. But he is beating them by the clock not anything else. So he cant be considered a great imo.

Silva has beaten his opponents like jones in a devastating fashion. I believe ppl are scared of silva and jones. And weid will have no choice but to attempt to take him down. But I don't see weid being better then sonnen at ground n pound.

Basketball fan- I think it takes more athletic ability to be good at mma then football or basketball. But yes basketball and footballs talent pool is mucb larger causing it to be hard to become pro.i agree with that

[pawn master]

Well guys lets just hope tomorrow is worth the 70 bucks it costs to watch. The last 2 were not. I think Silva would win but if he does not at least it we will get our money's worth for a change.

[pawn master]

Well when you have Silva and Jon Jones, I don't think that is necessarily a knock on GSP for not being the best pound-for-pound fighter, lol. He is correct though. He has NEVER fought at middleweight before. Silva has fought a few times a light heavyweight. The idea that GSP should fight Silva is more absurd than the idea for Silva to fight Jones.

I would put Randy Couture one of the best ever and definitely one of the most entertaining. I doubt we will ever see another man win the championship in his 40's again. I miss watching him but all good things must come to an end. Jones is just a beast I can not see anyone beating him that's in MMA right now ever, and this guys only 25 he's unreal.

[gearbox]

If cane or dos santos could make weight at 205 jones would be in trouble.

[gearbox]

I would put Randy Couture one of the best ever and definitely one of the most entertaining. I doubt we will ever see another man win the championship in his 40's again. I miss watching him but all good things must come to an end. Jones is just a beast I can not see anyone beating him that's in MMA right now ever, and this guys only 25 he's unreal.

Randy was great to watch but not one of the best ever imo. He did do well in heavy weight when there was no talent pool . either way the guy is a warrior

[basketballfan22]

Randy was great to watch but not one of the best ever imo. He did do well in heavy weight when there was no talent pool . either way the guy is a warrior

Yeah his record was definitely subpar, but I did really enjoy watching him fight.

[DB1982]

Now that is the type of information I like. I think there is a bit of a disconnect between me and you though. I am not necessarily arguing which sports is harder; I am arguing about the ATHLETES CURRENTLY taking part in the NFL, NBA, and MMA. There is no denying that MMA is a sport that requires a lot of skills. If a person excelled in the athletic areas I mentioned before, there is no denying that he/she would be a beast. The fact that possessing such athletic qualities would benefit one in MMA shows that MMA is a very demanding sport.

The point I have been trying to make (since the initial reference of Jon Jones) is that the level of athlete at the highest level in football and basketball is superior to the level of athlete you see in MMA. That is not a shot at the sport at all. Please tell me you agree that if Adrian Peterson and LeBron James practiced in the many facets of MMA their entire lives, then they would be MONSTERS! I am merely suggesting (for the reasons that have been discussed ad nauseum) that the incentive for the absolute best athletes to participate in MMA over football and basketball is nonexistent, at least for now. I won't necessarily say that MMA as a sport requires more athleticism, but that is an entirely different argument regardless.

Like I mentioned before, the path to make it to the NFL is A LOT harder and more competitive than the path to make it to the UFC. You have to play the sport your whole life, compete at a very high level, go to a big name university and play excellent there, go to the Combine and demonstrate your athleticism, then hopefully get drafted. The same road does not exist for the UFC. Have you ever watched The Ultimate Fighter, lol?

No I don't believe the Lebron or AP with proper trainer could easily compete at a elite level in mma.
That's like saying AP could easily compete in the NBA or vise versa Lebron could compete in the NFL.
While they maybe athletic. All that means nothing in the octagon. Most people can't take the punishment dished out in a single fight at an amateur level let alone a pro level.
I have linked multiple links to articles proving my point. Where professionals in the know have said Elite level MMA guys are far more athletic then a player in the NBA or NFL.

By your thought process you believe say Tom Brady or P.Manning or Dominic Sue could all Compete in the UFC simple because they made it in the NFL. And the NFL is tougher to get in to. ( I'm simply using your way of thinking which is highly flawed).
Are NFL player athletic hell yeah they are.
Does a NBA player need a high level of talent oh yeah they do.
Does an elite level MMA fighter need a high level of talent and athleticism not to mention the mind set to do what they do.
On top of being able to stay calm and think their way out of tough situations. All the while taking huge amounts if punishment while fighting off the strengths of their opponent trying to impose his will on them.
No teammates to come help. No pads to protect him. No sitting the bench because of concussion or to rest for a few.
No passing to ball to avoid contact. No running away to avoid danger.

You see when you train to be the best you are the best. And elite MMA fighters are just that.
The most athletic toughest sports figures in the world.

The reason there is a bigger talent pool to choose from in the NFL or NBA is because most people grow up playing football n basketball so there's a lot of kids honing their talent dreaming of being a Pro someday. No true with MMA. Most kids don't go around fighting their friend. And in a this day and age when the first programs that are cut from a schools sports program is wrestling is easy to see why there a bigger talent pool for the NBA or NFL.

[Doom44]

No I don't believe the Lebron or AP with proper trainer could easily compete at a elite level in mma.
That's like saying AP could easily compete in the NBA or vise versa Lebron could compete in the NFL.
While they maybe athletic. All that means nothing in the octagon. Most people can't take the punishment dished out in a single fight at an amateur level let alone a pro level.
I have linked multiple links to articles proving my point. Where professionals in the know have said Elite level MMA guys are far more athletic then a player in the NBA or NFL.

By your thought process you believe say Tom Brady or P.Manning or Dominic Sue could all Compete in the UFC simple because they made it in the NFL. And the NFL is tougher to get in to. ( I'm simply using your way of thinking which is highly flawed).
Are NFL player athletic hell yeah they are.
Does a NBA player need a high level of talent oh yeah they do.
Does an elite level MMA fighter need a high level of talent and athleticism not to mention the mind set to do what they do.
On top of being able to stay calm and think their way out of tough situations. All the while taking huge amounts if punishment while fighting off the strengths of their opponent trying to impose his will on them.
No teammates to come help. No pads to protect him. No sitting the bench because of concussion or to rest for a few.
No passing to ball to avoid contact. No running away to avoid danger.

You see when you train to be the best you are the best. And elite MMA fighters are just that.
The most athletic toughest sports figures in the world.

The reason there is a bigger talent pool to choose from in the NFL or NBA is because most people grow up playing football n basketball so there's a lot of kids honing their talent dreaming of being a Pro someday. No true with MMA. Most kids don't go around fighting their friend. And in a this day and age when the first programs that are cut from a schools sports program is wrestling is easy to see why there a bigger talent pool for the NBA or NFL.

Well say mate. I couldn't agree more !!!

[basketballfan22]

No I don't believe the Lebron or AP with proper trainer could easily compete at a elite level in mma.
That's like saying AP could easily compete in the NBA or vise versa Lebron could compete in the NFL.
While they maybe athletic. All that means nothing in the octagon. Most people can't take the punishment dished out in a single fight at an amateur level let alone a pro level.
I have linked multiple links to articles proving my point. Where professionals in the know have said Elite level MMA guys are far more athletic then a player in the NBA or NFL.

By your thought process you believe say Tom Brady or P.Manning or Dominic Sue could all Compete in the UFC simple because they made it in the NFL. And the NFL is tougher to get in to. ( I'm simply using your way of thinking which is highly flawed).
Are NFL player athletic hell yeah they are.
Does a NBA player need a high level of talent oh yeah they do.
Does an elite level MMA fighter need a high level of talent and athleticism not to mention the mind set to do what they do.
On top of being able to stay calm and think their way out of tough situations. All the while taking huge amounts if punishment while fighting off the strengths of their opponent trying to impose his will on them.
No teammates to come help. No pads to protect him. No sitting the bench because of concussion or to rest for a few.
No passing to ball to avoid contact. No running away to avoid danger.

You see when you train to be the best you are the best. And elite MMA fighters are just that.
The most athletic toughest sports figures in the world.

The reason there is a bigger talent pool to choose from in the NFL or NBA is because most people grow up playing football n basketball so there's a lot of kids honing their talent dreaming of being a Pro someday. No true with MMA. Most kids don't go around fighting their friend. And in a this day and age when the first programs that are cut from a schools sports program is wrestling is easy to see why there a bigger talent pool for the NBA or NFL.

The links you provided don't serve your point though. One, boxing is considered the top. I know you argued that MMA takes boxing into account, but it doesn't. It only takes punching in the face into account. Also I am not convinced those articles you linked don't rank MMA. I believe they just call MMA, "martial arts." Two, those links you provided were evaluating the sport, not the athletes at the most elite level! The only point you have is Larry Fitzgerald. One argument you have made was how NFL players wouldn't be able to train MMA, but we are seeing that is not true. MANY are training MMA in the off-season because they are capable of doing so. Also Jon Jones has said he wouldn't last two minutes in the NFL. I also made the Brock Lesnar point. While he got his ass handed to him against Cain and Overeem, the fact that he made it to the UFC so easily, let alone won the championship, shows that the level of athlete is not as high as it could and should be right now.

I am stunned that you don't think AP and LeBron wouldn't be excellent at MMA had they trained for it their entire lives. To answer one of your questions, yes I do believe LeBron would be great in the NFL as a tight end if he focused exclusively on football. Are there football and basketball players that wouldn't be great at MMA? Of course, but there would be a higher percentage of them that would do well in MMA compared to MMA fighters in the NFL or NBA.

The point about MMA's being an individual sport again doesn't serve the purpose of this debate. Yes, I love MMA primarily for the fact that it all falls on one man's shoulders. This is true for ALL individual sports (e.g. tennis, boxing, and gymnastics) though.

The points I made are the very likely reasons why better athletes enter the NFL and NBA. If there are few people who train MMA, then the competitiveness to enter the UFC (or any other organization) is not nearly as high. Competition is what drives success and innovation.

[basketballfan22]

I am excited about tonight's event though. It should be very fun to watch.

[DB1982]

Let's make one thing clear Martial Arts is not MMA. MMA is a combination of ALL forms of combat training.
And several links suggest Boxing is #1 . Open your mind stop being bias and think for a minute if Boxing is regarded #1 and Wrestling #5 with Martial arts #6 and MMA incubuses all of these and so mush more it would incline you to come to the conclusion that if there was such a sport that want by the name of MMA it would in fact be #1

Lebron can't even handle the NBA without crying about a simple smack. But you seem to believe he could play in the NFL or compete in MMA. Really ?? You honestly can't be serious.

And just because your good at a certain sport doesn't mean you'll excel at others.

Mike Tyson said it best. " Everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the face".
NFL n NBA players excel at their sports respectfully but then again its a team sport. Where would these guys be without there teams ??? No where.

Look at Lebron for instance he couldn't get it done by himself in Cleveland . So he sold out along with others to create a super team. To do what he couldn't on his own.

I could post a million more links to educated people in the know regarding combat sports above teams sports but you'll still argue that too.
Which is fine. But judging from your name its clear your way too bias to ever agree even if its god himself saying it.

Brock Lesnar was giving that title to sell tickets point blank. End of story . You know it full n clear no reason to argue it.


Since we are talking who's the most athletic figures of all sports at this put in time.

Let's see about this take your best NBA or NFL star and pit them against the champion in the UFC of their weight class and see how well they fair in the octagon.

Since combat sports are a true measure of WHO'S better of 2 individuals .

And not a measure of who's faster or quicker or benches the most.
Its a measure of who's better .

Not of who can run the fastest in perfect condition. Or push a sled. Or make a 3pt.

Take all the pads. Balls, teammates,shoes everything out the picture. And who's the best at this point in time. MMA wins hands down every time .

Also combat sports have been around Far longer then any team sport.

[DB1982]

Here's another and please do take the time to open your mind and read. And understand MMA again is ranked at #1

http://www.muscleprodigy.com/top-10-...arcl-1913.html

[DB1982]

Figured I'd add this just in case you didn't follow the link you could still see where MMA ranks on the list and what said about the sport.
To top it off it includes statements made about Lebron James competing in MMA all to which draw to the same conclusion I've been saying since the beginning of this debate.

[pawn master]

If cane or dos santos could make weight at 205 jones would be in trouble.

I completely disagree.

[basketballfan22]

Let's make one thing clear Martial Arts is not MMA. MMA is a combination of ALL forms of combat training.
And several links suggest Boxing is #1 . Open your mind stop being bias and think for a minute if Boxing is regarded #1 and Wrestling #5 with Martial arts #6 and MMA incubuses all of these and so mush more it would incline you to come to the conclusion that if there was such a sport that want by the name of MMA it would in fact be #1

Lebron can't even handle the NBA without crying about a simple smack. But you seem to believe he could play in the NFL or compete in MMA. Really ?? You honestly can't be serious.

And just because your good at a certain sport doesn't mean you'll excel at others.

Mike Tyson said it best. " Everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the face".
NFL n NBA players excel at their sports respectfully but then again its a team sport. Where would these guys be without there teams ??? No where.

Look at Lebron for instance he couldn't get it done by himself in Cleveland . So he sold out along with others to create a super team. To do what he couldn't on his own.

I could post a million more links to educated people in the know regarding combat sports above teams sports but you'll still argue that too.
Which is fine. But judging from your name its clear your way too bias to ever agree even if its god himself saying it.

Brock Lesnar was giving that title to sell tickets point blank. End of story . You know it full n clear no reason to argue it.


Since we are talking who's the most athletic figures of all sports at this put in time.

Let's see about this take your best NBA or NFL star and pit them against the champion in the UFC of their weight class and see how well they fair in the octagon.

Since combat sports are a true measure of WHO'S better of 2 individuals .

And not a measure of who's faster or quicker or benches the most.
Its a measure of who's better .

Not of who can run the fastest in perfect condition. Or push a sled. Or make a 3pt.

Take all the pads. Balls, teammates,shoes everything out the picture. And who's the best at this point in time. MMA wins hands down every time .

Also combat sports have been around Far longer then any team sport.

A few things first. I have an open mind on most topics, including this one. Yes, basketball is my favorite sport; but I love MMA too. I think it is you who has more bias because you train MMA. Secondly, implying I won't read your links is ridiculous. I clearly read all of the links you posted; that is why I commented on their comparing the sports and not the athletes.

You can't be serious about LeBron. He played football all through high school, you do know? His crying about being hit has nothing to do with toughness as it does about getting the call. He is not actually hurt when he gets fouled. Have you not seen how many NFL general managers have expressed interest in giving LeBron a shot? Also I have never said that LeBron could just enter the NFL or even the UFC. I said if he played it his whole life like he has basketball, then he would be able to.

You continue to argue about sport versus sport. Let's simplify this as much as possible. Name the greatest athletes in MMA. Personally, I believe the top two are Jon Jones and Georges St. Pierre. If you think someone else is superior, then name them. Now using the athletic attributes I included in one of my other posts, compare these two with AP, LeBron, Reggie Bush, Calvin Johnson, etc. The ONLY attribute I see Jon and GSP being superior in is endurance. That's it! The article you just linked does the best job in arguing the point; but just because they include the name LeBron James, doesn't hide the fact that they are comparing the SPORTS. Another problem is that article is not written by experts. I can link random articles from Bleacher Report that support my claim. Also the way the author rated only a FEW of the possible athletic attributes is greatly flawed. MMA requires more strength than football? Not even close. Have you ever watched the Combine before. NFL (not just football) players are insanely strong.

Beyond the eye test which shows that the athletes in the NFL and NBA are superior to the likes of Matt Mitrione, Lyoto Machida, and Chael Sonnen, you really believe in the short time that MMA has been around that the best athletes in the world decided to take it up. Read what Jon Jones has to say about this argument. His two brothers play in the NFL. He maintains that the athletes in the NFL (not football players) are superior to the athletes in the UFC. Don't think of it as Jon Jones the MMA fighter and Adrian Peterson the football player, but instead throw away the respective sports they are apart of. Think of it as Jon Jones the person and Adrian Peterson the person.

Finally Brock got his title shot because of tickets, correct; but he still had to WIN the fights he was in! He beat the fighters he was put in front of.

You keep knocking team sports and argue how much more noble individual sports are which is fine, but we are looking at the best athletes in the particular sport. Also "who can run the fastest" is a very important aspect of athleticism and so is raw strength or "who can bench the most" like you say. Those are athletic qualities.

[gearbox]

I completely disagree.

I think the dragon can beat jones if given another shot. I am not saying jones is not good but for him to be amazing he needs 10 plus title defenses at least. He almost lost to Belfort cause an immature error on his part I think. But he is young so thats expected

[basketballfan22]

I think the dragon can beat jones if given another shot. I am not saying jones is not good but for him to be amazing he needs 10 plus title defenses at least. He almost lost to Belfort cause an immature error on his part I think. But he is young so thats expected

I understand your hesitation to anoint Jones as an all-time great because he has to win more fights, but I think it's fair to say the man is a beast and has the potential to be the GOAT. I really don't see how Lyoto beats him though. He was competitive the first round of the fight, but I think Jones has too many tools. Also his close loss to Vitor was just a result from a lapse in judgment. It demonstrates his toughness though. Did you see his fight against Chael? It's insane that he didn't notice his toe until after Rogan told him, lol.

[DB1982]

Honestly I'm done with it. I've wasted enough time on this.

I'm nowhere near Bias my Favorite sports are NFL n MMA. The NBA is now a joke full sissies and floppers.
So when you compare them to real athletes I laugh.

I train in MMA because I simply enjoy the challenge and respect that goes along with.

Like I've said before this all about our opinions. Yours n mine. There no right or wrong answers just opinions.

If we were at a bar this is when we agree to disagree then take a couple shots and enjoy the fights.

[basketballfan22]

Honestly I'm done with it. I've wasted enough time on this.

I'm nowhere near Bias my Favorite sports are NFL n MMA. The NBA is now a joke full sissies and floppers.
So when you compare them to real athletes I laugh.

I train in MMA because I simply enjoy the challenge and respect that goes along with.

Like I've said before this all about our opinions. Yours n mine. There no right or wrong answers just opinions.

If we were at a bar this is when we agree to disagree then take a couple shots and enjoy the fights.

Lol, what do you mean? It's not like you and I have over half of the posts in this thread.

[DB1982]

Lol, what do you mean? It's not like you and I have over half of the posts in this thread.

I know right hahaha. Lol

[pawn master]

I think the dragon can beat jones if given another shot. I am not saying jones is not good but for him to be amazing he needs 10 plus title defenses at least. He almost lost to Belfort cause an immature error on his part I think. But he is young so thats expected

Maybe we have been watching different ufc? Dragon is such a huge disappointment since he won the belt. I think he lost to Hendo even though they gave him the decision. I do not think he will ever win anything ever again. Way over rated. Jones has just destroyed all comers it has not even been close. I think 2 years from now there will be no doubt because this guy is not losing anytime soon.

[basketballfan22]

Maybe we have been watching different ufc? Dragon is such a huge disappointment since he won the belt. I think he lost to Hendo even though they gave him the decision. I do not think he will ever win anything ever again. Way over rated. Jones has just destroyed all comers it has not even been close. I think 2 years from now there will be no doubt because this guy is not losing anytime soon.

Yep, I agree with everything you just said. It is funny considering people like Rogan were calling Lyoto unbeatable.

[DB1982]

Maybe we have been watching different ufc? Dragon is such a huge disappointment since he won the belt. I think he lost to Hendo even though they gave him the decision. I do not think he will ever win anything ever again. Way over rated. Jones has just destroyed all comers it has not even been close. I think 2 years from now there will be no doubt because this guy is not losing anytime soon.

Jones is a great fighter. But he's a true heavy weight fighting at light heavy weight.
The same goes for A.Silva the key differance is at least Silva has moved up to 205lbs and still destroyed his opponents with ease.

I honestly don't believe J.Jones can compete against guys his own size.
So until he moves up and fights opponents his size or bigger he won't be regarded as the pound for pound champ like Silva.

[basketballfan22]

Jones is a great fighter. But he's a true heavy weight fighting at light heavy weight.
The same goes for A.Silva the key differance is at least Silva has moved up to 205lbs and still destroyed his opponents with ease.

I honestly don't believe J.Jones can compete against guys his own size.
So until he moves up and fights opponents his size or bigger he won't be regarded as the pound for pound champ like Silva.

This brings up one big issue I have with boxing and MMA. Weigh-ins need to occur the day of the fight, not the day before. This will force fighters to fight at their natural weight instead of dropping insane amounts of weight to fight at a smaller weight class, then putting back most of that weight during fight night. Jon Jones is one of the vast majority of fighters who cut a lot of weight. Forrest Griffin walks around at 240! GSP walks around at 194. Thiago Alves walks around 205 and cuts to 170! This was one reason why I was such a huge fan of Fedor when he fought. It is also a reason why I enjoy watching Cain and Frankie Edgar fight.

I disagree about Jones though. Eventually (hopefully after his next fight if he and Silva don't sign a fight contract), Jon will move to heavyweight; and I believe he will win the title. His athleticism and skill level are just insane.

[DB1982]

This brings up one big issue I have with boxing and MMA. Weigh-ins need to occur the day of the fight, not the day before. This will force fighters to fight at their natural weight instead of dropping insane amounts of weight to fight at a smaller weight class, then putting back most of that weight during fight night. Jon Jones is one of the vast majority of fighters who cut a lot of weight. Forrest Griffin walks around at 240! GSP walks around at 194. Thiago Alves walks around 205 and cuts to 170! This was one reason why I was such a huge fan of Fedor when he fought. It is also a reason why I enjoy watching Cain and Frankie Edgar fight.

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I agree 100% with your statements and have preached this samething for years now.
Frankie is one of my favorite fighters for this exact reason Cain too..
I'm not a really a fan of Fedor but do respect his legacy .
I'm glad we finely agree on something. Lol

[pawn master]

time will tell. This Barboza is great. He will be champ one day. Brutal leg kicks.

[Zodiac82]

Let the games begiiiin....(that means the fights are starting lol)

-Beast Mode-

[Zodiac82]

god I cant stand cub Swanson

-Beast Mode-

[DB1982]

Wow . Frankie Edgar is a beast.

[Zodiac82]

here we go

-Beast Mode-

[Zodiac82]

whoooooaaah and there it IS babyyyyyy!!!!!

-Beast Mode-

[DB1982]

Serves Silva right for acting like that

Huge Silva fan but not for that bs

[Doom44]

Ohhhhhh god. Silva loose

[basketballfan22]

End of an era boys! I was never that big of a fan of Silva, so for Silva fans I am sure that one hurts. I recall when Fedor finally lost. I was crushed, lol. Although I was not a huge fan of his, I didn't really dislike him either. I sure as hell respected his talent and accomplishments though. He is the greatest fighter of all time, but now it is time for the new generation of fighters to reign. Only GSP remains on top from the last generation.

There goes any possibility of a superfight though.

[basketballfan22]

I agree 100% with your statements and have preached this samething for years now.
Frankie is one of my favorite fighters for this exact reason Cain too..
I'm not a really a fan of Fedor but do respect his legacy .
I'm glad we finely agree on something. Lol

Lmao. Yeah, it is nice to agree on something.