PSMF diet before cycle.

[Docd187123]

I'm talking about the same reason you don't run endless cycles. Or extended cycles. Keep your AAS out of your prime. I don't see how a lot of AAS during a prime are going to help you after your prime. Same reason why you have Ronnie Rowlands methods here on the forum.

I thought the reason you don't run endless or extended cycles is bc supraphysiological levels aren't healthy. By coming off you allow the body a chance to return to homeostasis and avoid potential long term health complications. Also, the longer the suppression the harder potential recovery becomes. I've not seen evidence that androgen receptors get fresh or respond better. I'm not recommending running a bunch of compounds during a prime such as this I just don't see how the receptors would benefit either.

[slfmade]

I thought the reason you don't run endless or extended cycles is bc supraphysiological levels aren't healthy. By coming off you allow the body a chance to return to homeostasis and avoid potential long term health complications. Also, the longer the suppression the harder potential recovery becomes. I've not seen evidence that androgen receptors get fresh or respond better. I'm not recommending running a bunch of compounds during a prime such as this I just don't see how the receptors would benefit either.

I haven't researched this much if any, but at some point don't we reach of point of diminishing returns the longer we run cycles?

[Docd187123]

I haven't researched this much if any, but at some point don't we reach of point of diminishing returns the longer we run cycles?

True, but I'm not denying diminishing returns exists. I'm questioning how that applies to the androgen receptor and how not running anything will "freshen receptors and allow them to respond better". Remember androgen receptor down regulation hasn't be shown to happen (but up regulation has) and the only cases of androgen receptor desensitization have I've seen have been due to pathological issues not AAS use.

[slfmade]

True, but I'm not denying diminishing returns exists. I'm questioning how that applies to the androgen receptor and how not running anything will "freshen receptors and allow them to respond better". Remember androgen receptor down regulation hasn't be shown to happen (but up regulation has) and the only cases of androgen receptor desensitization have I've seen have been due to pathological issues not AAS use.

So why do our returns diminish then if not due to some type of down regulation? Not second guessing - just trying to learn.

[Docd187123]

So why do our returns diminish then if not due to some type of down regulation? Not second guessing - just trying to learn.

Which returns are you talking about? AAS returns or bulking in general?