pre existing gyno

[devil-1986]

i haven't any lump issue but some of puffy nipples if this is gyno tell me what should i do in my cycle :
my stat 28 yld
185 lbs
5'10"
week 1-10 250-500 mg/ml test e twice a week
week 1-10 hcg 250 iu twice a week
week 1-12 0.625-1 mg letro eod because i'm pron to gyno
week 1-12 20 mg tamoxifen ed
pct : start from week 13 : 40/40/20/20 tamoxifen and 75/50/50/50 clomid
plz correct me if i forgot something

[NoBulkNoCutJustGrow]

i haven't any lump issue but some of puffy nipples if this is gyno tell me what should i do in my cycle :
my stat 28 yld
185 lbs
6'10"
week 1-10 250-500 mg/ml test e twice a week
week 1-10 hcg 250 iu twice a week
week 1-12 0.625-1 mg letro eod because i'm pron to gyno
week 1-12 20 mg tamoxifen ed
pct : start from week 15 : 40/40/20/20 tamoxifen and 75/50/50/50 clomid
plz correct me if i forgot something

I too am prone to gyno and have been using a maintenance dose of 10 mg of Tamoxifen (nolva) during cycle along with an AI and have been getting great results and zero gyno flare ups; 20 mg if I dose test more than 800 mg/week. Along with Aromasin at 25mg a day I've been getting great results, no gyno, skin tight dry vascularity, joints are fine. Mind the letro it can crash you Estrogen if you take too much. Hope my 2 cents help.

[devil-1986]

I too am prone to gyno and have been using a maintenance dose of 10 mg of Tamoxifen (nolva) during cycle along with an AI and have been getting great results and zero gyno flare ups; 20 mg if I dose test more than 800 mg/week. Along with Aromasin at 25mg a day I've been getting great results, no gyno, skin tight dry vascularity, joints are fine. Mind the letro it can crash you Estrogen if you take too much. Hope my 2 cents help.

with using the tamoxifen while on cycle can any effect on gains ?
and sorry my height is 5'10"

[NoBulkNoCutJustGrow]

with using the tamoxifen while on cycle can any effect on gains ?
and sorry my height is 5'10"

It is believed that high doses of Tamoxifen may lower IGF-1 levels but only slightly and prevent muscle build up in the chest muscles or any other muscles with receptors where tamoxifen exerts it's influence due to the lack of estrogen which is needed to build muscle; at only 10 mg I don't believe there's much of a impact in that regard. I'd say for on cycle 10 mg will give you piece of mind in terms of any gyno that might flare up and the negative effect it might have are negligible at best at that dose. If you weren't on cycle then you could expect your gains to be hindered for sure but with AAS in your system it's not an issue IMO.

[devil-1986]

It is believed that high doses of Tamoxifen may lower IGF-1 levels but only slightly and prevent muscle build up in the chest muscles or any other muscles with receptors where tamoxifen exerts it's influence due to the lack of estrogen which is needed to build muscle; at only 10 mg I don't believe there's much of a impact in that regard. I'd say for on cycle 10 mg will give you piece of mind in terms of any gyno that might flare up and the negative effect it might have are negligible at best at that dose. If you weren't on cycle then you could expect your gains to be hindered for sure but with AAS in your system it's not an issue IMO.

thank u bro , let me ask u something have you get gyno before ? or do you have ever start cycling with pre existing gyno ? if yes tell me what do u do for reverse it ?

[NoBulkNoCutJustGrow]

thank u bro , let me ask u something have you get gyno before ? or do you have ever start cycling with pre existing gyno ? if yes tell me what do u do for reverse it ?

No problem brother.

Yeah I have man; once during cycle after a dbol kick start. That dbol is dangerously renown for that if your're not careful. This is what I did: (mind you I was on dbol and close to a gram of test)

week 1: First 3 days: 60 mg ED then last 4 days: 40mg Nolva ED / Aromasin 25mg ED
Week 2: 40mg Nolva ED / Aromasin 25mg ED
Wee 3 - until it subsides: 20mg Nolva ED / Aromasin 12.5mg ED
Then maintenance dose of 10 mg after it subsides if you're still on cycle when it does.

Now I run a maintenance dose of 10 mg ED along with my AI from the start of cycle and haven't had any issues again. You can start a cycle on a pre-existing gyno flare up but it'll just take longer for the gyno to be reversed because there's more (testosterone converting to estrogen) to fight off; I would take care of the gyno first though but that's just me.

[devil-1986]

No problem brother.

Yeah I have man; once during cycle after a dbol kick start. That dbol is dangerously renown for that if your're not careful. This is what I did: (mind you I was on dbol and close to a gram of test)

week 1: First 3 days: 60 mg ED then last 4 days: 40mg Nolva ED / Aromasin 25mg ED
Week 2: 40mg Nolva ED / Aromasin 25mg ED
Wee 3 - until it subsides: 20mg Nolva ED / Aromasin 12.5mg ED
Then maintenance dose of 10 mg after it subsides if you're still on cycle when it does.

Now I run a maintenance dose of 10 mg ED along with my AI from the start of cycle and haven't had any issues again. You can start a cycle on a pre-existing gyno flare up but it'll just take longer for the gyno to be reversed because there's more (testosterone converting to estrogen) to fight off; I would take care of the gyno first though but that's just me.

many thanks to you buddy ,I need tell you something before start your protocol i'm start 40 mg ed of tamoxifen one weeks ago for one week and currently on 20 mg for another week i'll start my cycle from Saturday , would you recommend me to stop tamoxifen now and start your protocol from Saturday or use this 20 mg until Saturday then switch to your protocol ?