Milos Sarcev supplement timing, logical or not?

[hellomycognomen]

what Dan Duchaine preached for years. He outlined meal placements and supplement intake before gym activity and protein intake afterward.

You can state it with new catch phrases and put the pills in pretty colored bottles but it is the same theories.

Your example was for before and after a workout where the pump is none or reduced.

My questions was more concerning the induced hyperemia and increased blood flow created during the working out.

If your muscles are pumping, blood flow at max potential, does this provide an ideal opportunity to supplement or not?

For example if you take BCAAs during the workout when muscles are pumped will this be superior to taking them at any random time of the day?

Keep in mind that here I am specifically focusing on fast digesting aminos and supplements .

[Docd187123]

Your example was for before and after a workout where the pump is none or reduced.

My questions was more concerning the induced hyperemia and increased blood flow created during the working out.

If your muscles are pumping, blood flow at max potential, does this provide an ideal opportunity to supplement or not?

For example if you take BCAAs during the workout when muscles are pumped will this be superior to taking them at any random time of the day?

Keep in mind that here I am specifically focusing on fast digesting aminos and supplements .

If you don't train fasted you will already have ample BCAAs in your system being digested and absorbed during your workout...provided you take a complete protein source.

[hellomycognomen]

Great points everyone. I appreciate the input.

Looks like case closed. haha.

-Cheers

[Chicagotarsier]

You have to go outside the window of homeostasis unless there is an incredible need for an item.

To generate need you have to either deplentish glycogen completely or enter the citric acid cycle.

The only thing max bloodflow would do in my opinion is actually lessen need because of glucose transport from stored regions like liver and other muscles.

45 minutes at 70% max heart rate enters you into the citric acid cycle (without helpers like T3 or Clen).

Glucose replenishment is not a body priority until the brain cannot find what it needs to function....then...you enter citric acid cycle. The citric acid cycle requires many different types of acids and aminos which are not found in large quantities in the body. This in turn makes need. Need only for the items in the citric acid cycle production list.

I will state a possible caveat in this. EXTREMELY low calorie diet (1000 or less calorie a day) with dehydration and extremely low bodyfat (<8%). Your body is already in the citric acid cycle and anything you put in would benefit from the increased metabolism as long as you do not pass out. So if there is a time for your theory I would wager it is while cutting and at the end of your cycle.

Your example was for before and after a workout where the pump is none or reduced.

My questions was more concerning the induced hyperemia and increased blood flow created during the working out.

If your muscles are pumping, blood flow at max potential, does this provide an ideal opportunity to supplement or not?

For example if you take BCAAs during the workout when muscles are pumped will this be superior to taking them at any random time of the day?

Keep in mind that here I am specifically focusing on fast digesting aminos and supplements .

[hellomycognomen]

To generate need you have to either deplentish glycogen completely or enter the citric acid cycle.

Not sure I understand what you are talking about. ATP?

The only thing max bloodflow would do in my opinion is actually lessen need because of glucose transport from stored regions like liver and other muscles.

The theory was that the increased bloodflow would provide an ideal condition to transport and assimilate nutrients. Whether that is glucose, aminos, creatine, etc

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I think the intellectual consensus here was that as long as you provide the needed nutrients to the body (timing being generally irrelevant), the body will store, transport, assimilate, etc as the body sees fit.

So if I understood correctly from everyone, providing nutrients during max blood flow to the muscles (ie while working out) would generally be no more effective than providing the nutrient pre/post or at any other time of the day.