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    Drop setting is implement at the point of true positive failure on the exercise so you can go beyond failure if your mind is in the right place. You could use a combination of rest pause drops within the same workout but that depends on the muscle group your attacking and its very advanced. Learn how to tale your body to failure first before implementing any beyond failure methods IMHO
    I've gotten rid of most of the drop sets and some volume in my training and implemented more of the Dorian Yates style training (forced reps followed by eccentric exhaustion) you posted that I totally forgot about when I watched it two years ago. I also use rest pause for certain exercises. My strength has gone up a LOT. I think I was overdoing it with my training volume and minimal resting. Got all caught up in the CT Fletcher mentality.......doesn't really work.

    For example, 3 weeks ago I would rep 45 pounds dumbbells for hammer curls and today I got 55lbs for 8 reps. I'm very pleased. I like drop setting but I think there's a point where your going beyond what you need for growth and only excessively depleting muscle glycogen and making for a longer recovery. Of course its also super useful to have a gym partner for bloods and guts style training.

    I used to do like 3 dropsets a body part plus 10-12 sets. Now I do 4-5 working sets with one of them being a rest pause or drop set. Less might be more. I like to work out 5 days a week.

    Thanks for the inspiration on changing my shit.
    Last edited by davesah1; 06-20-2014 at 04:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davesah1 View Post
    I've gotten rid of most of the drop sets and some volume in my training and implemented more of the Dorian Yates style training (forced reps followed by eccentric exhaustion) you posted that I totally forgot about when I watched it two years ago. I also use rest pause for certain exercises. My strength has gone up a LOT. I think I was overdoing it with my training volume and minimal resting. Got all caught up in the CT Fletcher mentality.......doesn't really work.

    For example, 3 weeks ago I would rep 45 pounds dumbbells for hammer curls and today I got 55lbs for 8 reps. I'm very pleased. I like drop setting but I think there's a point where your going beyond what you need for growth and only excessively depleting muscle glycogen and making for a longer recovery. Of course its also super useful to have a gym partner for bloods and guts style training.

    I used to do like 3 dropsets a body part plus 10-12 sets. Now I do 4-5 working sets with one of them being a rest pause or drop set. Less might be more. I like to work out 5 days a week.

    Thanks for the inspiration on changing my shit.
    Drop setting is just one beyond failure protocol I use, if I have a partner I much prefer forced and negative. If you read my thread it tells you in there about all the protocols and also how to take yourself part positive failure. I never train volume even drop setting is hit STYLE. If you want to learn how to train to hit and take your body into serious growth and also get a better understanding of the muscle fibers used check out my diary in the lounge. Its a long read but worth it,.

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