First cycle , test p and test e

[Pac45]

Damn you guys really scared the shiit out of me. But One of the risks with cycling while having a high bf is that it can convert to estrogen more am i right?
But can't you just take arimdex or anything similar to get the estrogen down?

[MuscleInk]

Damn you guys really scared the shiit out of me. But One of the risks with cycling while having a high bf is that it can convert to estrogen more am i right?
But can't you just take arimdex or anything similar to get the estrogen down?

An AI will help reduce the rate of aromatization, but it's unique for each person. No two people will aromatize at the same rate. That's why two people can take the same dose of an AI and one can have greater problems controlling aromatization than the other.

Starting off with a higher level of body fat means you will have more serum estrogen than someone with a much lower body fat. Moreover, breast enlargement is only one of many problems with elevated serum estrogen. High levels of estrogen increase your risks for cardiac diseases, unfavorable changes to your blood chemistry, prostate enlargement (and risks for prostate cancer), decreased immune function, delayed wound healing (so injuries can heal more slowly), reduced bone turnover and softening of bones, and increased risks for metabolic disorders and type 2 diabetes. Most of the guys giving you advice from the gym aren't medically trained and have spent very little time actually learning about the full spectrum of anabolics and the ancillaries used to regulate the side effects.

The senior members on this board have lived this lifestyle for many years and have achieved great success from their cycles because they know how to cycle safely and properly. Kel is one of the most respected members on this forum and has a physique most guys his age could only dream of and the advice he offers is based on real world knowledge, not hear say.

The advice we offer is to keep you safe. I know its not what every young guy wants to hear. Many your age want a lean, chiseled beach body to impress the women. There are no quick results. It takes time and commitment and the moment you try to cut corners or ignore important markers of health, you can cause some serious damage - I found this out the hard way last week when I ruptured two arteries due to severe hypertension from high doses of gear I thought I could handle.

I've been in medicine for 18 years. I know a great deal about anatomy and neuroendocrinology, but believe me, the moment you think you know more than you do, you may find yourself humbled pretty quick by a trip to the ER. In the past 7 days I've had 4 trips to the ER, and 3 to the ENT to have ruptured vessels cauterized. I'm lucky that I understood what was happening and can avoid the risks in the future, but it was totally ignorant of me to think I could dodge the risks of hypertension when years of medical training told me otherwise.

[Pac45]

Word !! and wow u've been through alot it seems.
i understand what ur saying , but what u said about that no two people will aromitaze at the same rate , do u mean that AI may not stop estrogen receptors at the same rate? right? but can't u just take a higher does of it so it can stop it or does it not matter?

[MuscleInk]

Word !! and wow u've been through alot it seems.
i understand what ur saying , but what u said about that no two people will aromitaze at the same rate , do u mean that AI may not stop estrogen receptors at the same rate? right? but can't u just take a higher does of it so it can stop it or does it not matter?

You can dose adjust and many do. Again, you need to appreciate the risks with these drugs. Common side effects of aromatase inhibitors include but are not limited to:

- arthralgia (joint pain)
- mylagia (muscle pain)
- headaches
- hypertension
- insomnia
- edema
- constipation
- dyspnea (shortness of breath)
- hypercholesterolemia
- diarrhea
- increased risk of infections
- blood clots

.......to name just a few. All are dose dependent, so the higher the dose and the longer the use, the greater the risks.

[NACH3]

Doesn't matter. You're still carrying too much body fat to cycle anything. It's great you've brought the bf down, but keep training naturally. You do NOT need steroids at 21 and with a body fat over 20% your risks of peripheral artery disease, embolisms, elevated serum estrogen, prostate enlargement, hypertension, hyperlipidemia, and hypercholesterolemia are significant.

Say if you use a-Dex for an AI... If you dose that too high you could crash your E2 at levels I believe you were talkin bout! Just my .02...

Word !! and wow u've been through alot it seems.
i understand what ur saying , but what u said about that no two people will aromitaze at the same rate , do u mean that AI may not stop estrogen receptors at the same rate? right? but can't u just take a higher does of it so it can stop it or does it not matter?