Almost 2 months on androgel! Results!

[xcraider37]

Don't use your bare hands where there is the thickest skin on your body. It's wasted. Apply with nitrile or latex gloves. Then use rubbing alcohol on them to get the rest onto your body. Most bang for your buck.

OP, search you tube and see Dr. Crisler method to apply gels, he says to apply on the underneath of your forearms, I did this when I was on gels. Although I can't tell if if was better than any other application, but it does protect against wasting the product.

[bruary17]

OP, search you tube and see Dr. Crisler method to apply gels, he says to apply on the underneath of your forearms, I did this when I was on gels. Although I can't tell if if was better than any other application, but it does protect against wasting the product.

I apply it to my inner thighs now. And when I'm through, I wet my hands with water slightly, by doing this I can feel the lathery, unused portion of the androgel that dried. I then apply that to the sides and back of my thighs - I feel like this is the best method to not waste any bit of it. But thank you for the input!

[bruary17]

Ok friends, update!

Just got back from the urologist appointment. Long story short - he switched me to shots. I have to finish out my remainding androgel, once that's complete, I wait two weeks...or a week. Fill my prescrition, which I have in hand (depo - testosterone & syringe) bring it into him and he will show me how to do my first shot and if I so choose, I can do the shots by myself at home.

Every two weeks I will be getting 200MG/ML of Depo-Testosterone. He will check my bloods and see how I'm feeling and adjust accordingly after that.

What do you all think?! I am really excited!!!

[2Sox]

Ok friends, update!

Just got back from the urologist appointment. Long story short - he switched me to shots. I have to finish out my remainding androgel, once that's complete, I wait two weeks...or a week. Fill my prescrition, which I have in hand (depo - testosterone & syringe) bring it into him and he will show me how to do my first shot and if I so choose, I can do the shots by myself at home.

Every two weeks I will be getting 200MG/ML of Depo-Testosterone. He will check my bloods and see how I'm feeling and adjust accordingly after that.

What do you all think?! I am really excited!!!

Good news. And not so good news. Every two weeks is BAD news. Also to wait two weeks to start your T shots is ridiculous. By the beginning of the second day without a gel you'll start feeling pretty bad. That's why they are applied daily! To keep your levels up and even.

If you've been doing your homework and reading the discussions here, you ought to already know that shots should be given once a week - at a MINIMUM. If you've been paying attention to the protocols that many use here, you also know that many do SQ and much more often than that - with great results. I'd suggest you re-evaluate your treatment plan and adjust accordingly.

[bruary17]

Good news. And not so good news. Every two weeks is BAD news. Also to wait two weeks to start your T shots is ridiculous. By the beginning of the second day without a gel you'll start feeling pretty bad. That's why they are applied daily! To keep your levels up and even.

If you've been doing your homework and reading the discussions here, you ought to already know that shots should be given once a week - at a MINIMUM. If you've been paying attention to the protocols that many use here, you also know that many do SQ and much more often than that - with great results. I'd suggest you re-evaluate your treatment plan and adjust accordingly.

I doubled my dose on the androgel w/out my Doctor Knowing, so what would have lasted me one month lasted me 15 days...I had to go the remaining 15 days with nothing...and honestly, I felt fine. No crash, no nothing. Pumps were still good in the gym and energy was up, which led me to believe...perhaps my levels slowly tapered off...and I was able to reinstate them once my script refilled.

As far as the bad news of bi-weekly test shots mimicking that of a roller coaster I found this interesting, found it on ************.com;

Using a long acting ester testosterone (CYP and ENAN) does not mimic the normally functioning male body's circadian rhythm (daily rise and fall of testosterone). Testosterone, in a normally functioning body, does not explode up to high levels then gradually fall over a 1-2 week period as it does when injecting a testosterone such as CYP or ENAN. On the contrary, the body produces a small amount each day which is far below 200mg (It's around 10mg). That small amount is concentrated at the beginning of the day and then falls low by the end of the day. This process repeats itself every day and by the end of two weeks, a normally functioning body produces approximately 140mg of testosterone (appx. 70mg per week).

The use of long acting esters are in theory supposed to slowly release the testosterone over a two week period, but this is not quite what happens. To keep it simple, the delay of the esters actually allows large amounts of testosterone to build up--especially if you are taking 200mg every week as opposed to once every two weeks (biweekly) which is what the dose is supposed to be. (I'm simplifying here). Remember the "normally functioning" male produces only (appx.) 70mg per week (=140mg per two weeks). The dose doctors are recommended to perscribe is 200mg every 2 weeks (biweekly), but they tend to give 200mg every week.

So, it is fallacious reasoning to compare the TOTAL amount of testosterone produced in daily spurts in a normally functioning body over a 2 week period to the same amount of testosterone injected in one shot at the beginning of a week and reshot every week (before the previous week's dose is used up). The latter case (injections once per week) results in an overlap and build up of dose which causes the levels of testosterone to be HIGHER than normal. (Remember the shots should actually be 200mg every TWO weeks--not every week). These excess levels of testosterone are sufficient to build lean body mass faster than the "normally functioning" male.

In other words: addding up what the average male body produces per week then comparing that to the amount that is shot every week is like comparing apples to oranges. There is a whole diferent set of advantageous reactions happening in the body when it is given a full
2-week load (200mg) at the beginning of a week as opposed to getting naturally occuring, small, daily spurts of appx 10mg over the same period of time (2 weeks).

This is why a low dose cycle can yeild REASONABLE gains. Understand, I'm not talking mega-huge-fast gains. I'm talking noticably-faster-than-normal gains, which when coupled with a strict diet, sufficient rest and an excellent bodybuilding work ethic, can yeild large, solid gains (especially early in a person's cycle experience).

[bruary17]

Good news. And not so good news. Every two weeks is BAD news. Also to wait two weeks to start your T shots is ridiculous. By the beginning of the second day without a gel you'll start feeling pretty bad. That's why they are applied daily! To keep your levels up and even.

If you've been doing your homework and reading the discussions here, you ought to already know that shots should be given once a week - at a MINIMUM. If you've been paying attention to the protocols that many use here, you also know that many do SQ and much more often than that - with great results. I'd suggest you re-evaluate your treatment plan and adjust accordingly.

I think you're right though, and I'd love to opt for 200mg per wk.....how to go about it is the question. And for long term; cold this really be healthy - 200mg weekly shots as replacement therapy?

[2Sox]

I think you're right though, and I'd love to opt for 200mg per wk.....how to go about it is the question. And for long term; cold this really be healthy - 200mg weekly shots as replacement therapy?

200mg/week is not a TRT protocol. It's much too high.

And I don't know who wrote the above quote - and in what context it was written (it seems that there is some discussion of cycling) but if I could speak to him I'd suggest he go try out his idea of a shot every two weeks and then report back to us about how he feels.

[Lifted1]

I think you're right though, and I'd love to opt for 200mg per wk.....how to go about it is the question. And for long term; cold this really be healthy - 200mg weekly shots as replacement therapy?

sox is not saying to take 200mg/wk, he is saying AT A MINIMUM split the 200mg every two weeks to 100mg/wk for a total of 200mg every two weeks. 100mg per week is the right place to start and 50mg every 3.5 days is even better. after 6 weeks get your blood drawn, see where your at and adjust from there.