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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by musclestack View Post
    Responses in red.

    You have much to learn and many gains to be made naturally before you cycle. Stop now, get advice from members here on whether or not you need to run a pct for the amount of time you've been on.

    I tell myself over and over not to comment on these types of threads that say "I don't care about peoples' opinions here. I've already made up my mind". But here I am again. I'm sure you'll reply to this advice I've given you with the same type of response you gave to Marcus. Oh well, I tried.
    No, I actually genuinely enjoyed reading your reply as I found it directly helpful. Appreciate the advice

    Morning
    4 Egg Whites
    4 Toast OR Oats

    Dinner
    200g White Rice/Shake (If not available for any reason)
    200g Chicken

    Tea
    200g Chicken/Shake (If not available for any reason)
    200/300g White Rice
    Veggies

    Supper
    40/60g Shake
    2/4 Toast

    Better?
    Last edited by Kazumz; 11-22-2014 at 01:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazumz View Post
    No, I actually genuinely enjoyed reading your reply as I found it directly helpful. Appreciate the advice

    Morning
    4 Egg Whites
    4 Toast OR Oats

    Not bad, but I would add 1 whole egg for a good fat source. This will slow the protein absorption down and hold you over until your next meal.

    Dinner
    200g White Rice/Shake (If not available for any reason)
    200g Chicken

    Only use the shake if you absolutely have to. The chicken and rice is a good meal here.

    Tea
    200g Chicken/Shake (If not available for any reason)
    200/300g White Rice
    Veggies

    Same advice as second meal.

    Supper
    40/60g Shake
    2/4 Toast

    This is immediately after training, yes? If so, the shake is fine. The toast is ok, but I would just add oats to your shake for convenience. Other than that, this meal is ok.


    After your pwo shake above, add one more meal before bed to prevent you from going into a catabolic state over night. Make this a protein/fat meal (the fat slows down the absorption of protein (as discussed in meal 1) and hold you over longer. If you don't want to eat a meal, you can take zempey's advice here and have a casein (not whey) shake.

    Better? Getting there.

    Responses in bold above. This is the first step into putting together a diet; knowing what to eat. But now you need to figure out exactly how much you're eating. You need to find the macros (amount of protein, carbs, and fats) for each meal to find out if you're getting too much or too little. This is key. If not, you're wasting your time.

    It sounds like you're willing to take the advice on getting your diet dialed in. Good job. I have 2 more crucial pieces of advice that you need to take: 1. Go to the diet section. Live there. There's a wealth of information, and it will also direct you in how to calculate all you macros/total calories (if you don't already know how). 2. Please stop this cycle. You're only going to do damage to yourself, and you won't end up keeping any if your gains when you come off without a more solid foundation and sufficient diet knowledge. I can almost bet you did not read the link I posted above, "The Young and Steroids". Please read it. It's not a joke.

    Best of luck to you.
    MS

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