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    Quote Originally Posted by Docd187123 View Post
    TR,

    Running an Atkins Diet is hardly a bench test. Especially when it's done without taking into account confirmation bias, confounding variables, user error etc.

    It's ok to be a skeptic but you need to read about human nutrition if you want to be taken serious on the subject matter.

    Eating fat gets stored as fat. The oxidation of it afterwards is dependent on other things.

    End of subject.
    if what you say is true, that any fat you eat is automatically stored as fat, then we are all doomed. Especially the Inuits that eat predominantly whale blubber for months on end as a dietary staple, yet are reasonably fit and "thin".

    and let's talk about what you said

    Especially when it's done without taking into account confirmation bias, confounding variables, user error etc.

    when I was in public accounting, we had plates of salami and cheese provided which I gorged on. no carbs. and yet, 30 pounds in 2 months. there is no "bias" there. Just fact. salami and cheese are calorically dense. and still, weight loss.

    Sorry mate.

    This is the second time I've had to disagree with you. Now I need to keep an eye on you as the advice you are giving seems impaired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    if what you say is true, that any fat you eat is automatically stored as fat, then we are all doomed. Especially the Inuits that eat predominantly whale blubber for months on end as a dietary staple, yet are reasonably fit and "thin".

    and let's talk about what you said

    Especially when it's done without taking into account confirmation bias, confounding variables, user error etc.

    when I was in public accounting, we had plates of salami and cheese provided which I gorged on. no carbs. and yet, 30 pounds in 2 months. there is no "bias" there. Just fact. salami and cheese are calorically dense. and still, weight loss.

    Sorry mate.

    This is the second time I've had to disagree with you. Now I need to keep an eye on you as the advice you are giving seems impaired.
    Any fat you eat is stored as fat correct. I'll explain the other half of the picture since you can't be bothered to further read the links or read the quotes:

    When you eat dietary fat it gets stored as fat. But NET FAT GAIN is dependent on fat being stored and fat being oxidized. Fat intake does not affect fat oxidation but energy balance does ie calories. If you are eating in a calorie deficit this means your energy needs have to come from somewhere if dietary carbs are not enough to supply the necessary glucose. Where does this energy come from? Stored body fat. If in a caloric deficit the fat being oxidized is more Thant the fat begin stored so NET FAT BALANCE IS REDUCED

    Your example of Inuits does not affect my argument in the least bc they're fat intake is still stored. The reason they're not getting fat is bc of the other half of the equation mentioned above.

    What I've said is accurate if you know anything about the human body and nutrient partitioning. The fact you disagree with me is not as important as the accuracy of the information being presented. I have provided references, peer-reviewed nonetheless, and you have provided a story about when you ran Atkins one time and the salami and cheese you used to eat at work. How that is to be used as proof of anything is beyond be but to each their own.

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