50mg Anavar

[Buster Brown]

Hey guys so guy at my gym gave me what is supposed to be 25 tablets of 50mg var. Ive taken this same looking tablet before and didn't see any results and I cant find any pictures or information about this one anywhere. Its round /pinkish orange color and have FP stamped on to one of the sides.. just wondering if it was real or fake if you guys could help that would be great!

Real 50 mg var tabs would be coveted and pricey. Sounds like someone just moving them along tbh. Who knows what they are and please be advised that you should NOT take any oral AAS without Tes as a base. You could look into a labmax kit to see if the tabs contain any var.

[Steroidman99]

Real 50 mg var tabs would be coveted and pricey. Sounds like someone just moving them along tbh. Who knows what they are and please be advised that you should NOT take any oral AAS without Tes as a base. You could look into a labmax kit to see if the tabs contain any var.

That's a contradiction in terms. If he wants to take Anavar, because he wants to avoid side effects of steroids, why would he take testosterone with it? Letting aside the simple fact that he would suppress his natural testosterone even deeper. Really a clever advice.

[EquilibriumZ]

That's a contradiction in terms. If he wants to take Anavar, because he wants to avoid side effects of steroids, why would he take testosterone with it? Letting aside the simple fact that he would suppress his natural testosterone even deeper. Really a clever advice.

lol you dont avoid side effects, you get them regardless

Here read this for all you "oral only" fans. If you still arent convinced reply there and read the comments.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...all-costs.html

[Steroidman99]

lol you dont avoid side effects, you get them regardless

Here read this for all you "oral only" fans. If you still arent convinced reply there and read the comments.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...all-costs.html

Yes. Great pieces of advice from people, who don't suffer from testosterone-related sides. Letting aside the fact that the main reason, why they use testosterone during a cycle is to retain enough libido in order to f**k girls from the gym. Intellectuals worthy of following.

[EquilibriumZ]

Yes. Great pieces of advice from people, who don't suffer from testosterone-related sides. Letting aside the fact that the main reason, why they use testosterone during a cycle is to retain enough libido in order to f**k girls from the gym. Intellectuals worthy of following.

Anavar shuts you down, your test level gets lower than a 80 year old man while you are on it, so how is it any better?

Ya if you testosterone related sides, you can take trt dosage so that your test will be in range and you wont have sides.

[Dog-Slime]

Anavar shuts you down, your test level gets lower than a 80 year old man while you are on it, so how is it any better?

Ya if you testosterone related sides, you can take trt dosage so that your test will be in range and you wont have sides.

Proof that anavar causes shutdown and not just suppression or that it causes extreme suppression I wanna see this study that you must be referencing since you state this as if it's fact

[Steroidman99]

Proof that anavar causes shutdown and not just suppression or that it causes extreme suppression I wanna see this study that you must be referencing since you state this as if it's fact

Oxandrolone in the treatment of HIV-associated weight loss in men: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study. - PubMed - NCBI

The study is not freely available, but I can quote from it:

In men taking 20 mg Anavar daily for 12 weeks, testosterone decreased to 54% of the baseline level and liver enzymes increased by ca. 10%.
In men taking 40 mg Anavar daily for 12 weeks, testosterone decreased to 55% of the baseline level and liver enzymes increased by ca. 30-40%.
In men taking 80 mg Anavar daily for 12 weeks, testosterone decreased to 33% of the baseline level and liver enzymes increased by ca. 51% (AST)-94% (ALT).

Such a low decrease of testosterone is quite impressive. To be honest, the baseline levels were already quite low, around 300 ng/dl, but if you still have over 100 ng/dl after 12 weeks of high Anavar doses, that's not a bad start for PCT.

The increase of liver enzymes at high doses was marked, but most of the subjects would remain within the normal limits.

Naturally, these are averages and the range of values was wide. Perhaps, I was just one of those unlucky men, who reacted to Anavar by too deep testosterone suppression, because my values at the end of the cycle ranged only between 10-50 ng/dl. On the other hand, my liver was "Anavar-resistant", because I have never had liver enzymes over the uppermost limit, even at 70-80 mg/day for 6 weeks.

[-Ender-]

I'm a senior member and very experienced but seem to have missed the part in my vast amount of research of how skipping out on taking something that suppresses you more than most (not all) orals makes you do more damage to your hpta? This has never held any merit and is why I leave here for large periods of time cause I get sick of the parroted preaching. Yes you'll gain more if you add test to a cycle but yes you'll gain more if you add any aas but tell me how more suppression/possible total shutdown is better for recovery?

absence would be a good idea in this case. There is a format and structure to what we preach in this forum. That structure is based on safety. If you do not agree with the teachings of this forum: Please go start your own.

Yes. Great pieces of advice from people, who don't suffer from testosterone-related sides. Letting aside the fact that the main reason, why they use testosterone during a cycle is to retain enough libido in order to f**k girls from the gym. Intellectuals worthy of following.

This is borderline flaming.
Please see my comment above. Your "opinion" varies from the practices that are conveyed in this forum for the safety of the researcher.

[Dog-Slime]

absence would be a good idea in this case. There is a format and structure to what we preach in this forum. That structure is based on safety. If you do not agree with the teachings of this forum: Please go start your own.




This is borderline flaming.
Please see my comment above. Your "opinion" varies from the practices that are conveyed in this forum for the safety of the researcher.

Been here long enough to have seen the old vets who started these rumors to admit that they were basically way over exaggerating to keep foolish noobs from running all oral cycles but that people who know what they're doing can benefit. Only oral I would recommend solo is tbol. Maybe dbol pulsed pre wo only

[-Ender-]

Been here long enough to have seen the old vets who started these rumors to admit that they were basically way over exaggerating to keep foolish noobs from running all oral cycles but that people who know what they're doing can benefit. Only oral I would recommend solo is tbol. Maybe dbol pulsed pre wo only

Good, so we are getting on the same page.
With that said: I am certain that it would appear to the OP that you are supporting his efforts. You also appear to understand shutdown/suppression. Would you care to address the issue of his age? The list of unknowns is long. However, it is well documented that most males continue to grow until the age of 25. The OP is attempting to upset his HPTA likely before his growth plates have fused.

Not to mention the shit he is claiming to be Anavar could be rat poison for all he knows.

There are a tremendous amount of young people that will search this forum and dig up this thread. They at the very least need to be well aware of the dangers.

[Sgt. Hartman]

That's a contradiction in terms. If he wants to take Anavar, because he wants to avoid side effects of steroids, why would he take testosterone with it? Letting aside the simple fact that he would suppress his natural testosterone even deeper. Really a clever advice.

If you'd stop being argumentative and think logically for 2 seconds you'd understand. Anavar will suppress (at least to some extent) endogenous testosterone production. Testosterone is what makes us males, plays a big role in getting an erection, libido, etc. So it's a good idea when taking any steroid, because they're all suppressive, to supplement with at least a trt dose of testosterone.