Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin View Post
It speeds up recovery, but its not necesary. Ive done over 20 cycles without it. Stil good Health and recovery was ig not optimal pretty ok. Many friends just the same.
And dont give me the SAFE AAS-use shittalk. Most supported cycles in here are 12 weeks + with lots of high tren dosages and lots of test. Iver never did 12 weeks +. 8, maybe 9 at most. I guess guys with a newbie knowledge understand a 12 week+ tren cycle with hcg is more unhealthy than a 8 weeks test/anavar cycle without hcg.

Hcg does nothing for your lipids, hct, BP. And in the long run it will not aid your natty test production. HCG is suppressive aswell.
It's a shame you haven't moved forward like science has in regards to cycling... In most of your threads you refer to cycling back in day and youse didn't have to use this or that... Well why wouldn't you want to use/& take all preventative measures so when you do go thru PCT you will be giving yourself a better chance of recovering(let's face it this is the most important part of cycling in itself - recovery) so I'll use your argument against you...

How can you compare cycles when in reality shut down is shut down - HCG will mimick LH production, keeps your testes functional on cycle(which is why it speeds up recovery b/c your testes are the last to come back - so why not give yourself that advantage as well), prevents testicular atrophy, stimulates your interstitial cells(leydig cells) 'which we don't have an ever ending supply'(austinite) of...

You say you've ran 20 cycles w/out it - great - just don't tell others it's not a necessity b/c of your ignorance. Furthermore, yes it is a suppressive, however, if taken w/in its dosages(500iu wkly) - although it can be higher(not exceeding 1000iu wkly) - but 2 250iu shots wkly has minuscule suppression effects in U.S. - hence why we use those amounts... Really this is about how we have all of the preventative ancillaries now(btw - you've seem to forgot these in your last cycle as well as HCG) out here that why wouldn't you take them... I'm not saying that if it has a negative impact on you to do so - but the drugs we have are for a reason - if Arnold had these in his day do you think that he wouldn't have used them... Of course he would have along w/today's BBers(if they didn't and ran as much gear as they do they'd be dead)...