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    Quote Originally Posted by DGenRit View Post
    Well I have been advised that I need to continue on Arimidex for a few weeks post-cycle and add in HCG to ignite natural testosterone production again - even though I will stay on TRT/HRT. Do you not agree with that? Just to be clear my natural testosterone level is about 500 w/o TRT. With TRT at 125 mg per week it jumps to about 700-750.

    Also I never took Arimidex while I did TRT / doses were so small at 125mg per week that I felt it wasn't necessary and I never got gyno. Do you advise otherwise?
    Looking great!

    But you dont have any natural testosterone since you started TRT 7 years ago.
    Once we inject our body stops producing completely, and the longer you stay on the harder it is get the testis back to work.
    Maybe you need to revise if you really want stop, you will lose a lot.

    Do you do bloodwork often? Hows your hematocrit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Looking great!

    But you dont have any natural testosterone since you started TRT 7 years ago.
    Once we inject our body stops producing completely, and the longer you stay on the harder it is get the testis back to work.
    Maybe you need to revise if you really want stop, you will lose a lot.

    Do you do bloodwork often? Hows your hematocrit?
    Thanks Mr.BB - I typically did bloodwork once a year before this cycle. Now that I'm cycling, I plan on doing it quarterly but am waiting to finish this cucle and PCT before getting it drawn again. My last panel before my transformation had my Hematocrit at 53.8 so a little bit high right? What should I be worried about there? The reason that I felt my test production was still in tact was that I always took HCG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Looking great!

    But you dont have any natural testosterone since you started TRT 7 years ago.
    Once we inject our body stops producing completely, and the longer you stay on the harder it is get the testis back to work.
    Maybe you need to revise if you really want stop, you will lose a lot.

    Do you do bloodwork often? Hows your hematocrit?
    Hey there BB - Hope you had a great New Year!!! I wanted to get back to you on this question regarding hematocrit. I just had bloods drawn about 10 days ago - about 14 weeks into cycle and the results weren't that bad I don't think. I'm not as knowledgeable as you but from what I can gather, it looks not too bad. Hematocrit is 49.8 but RDW was high at 19 (not sure what that means). The only one of the Liver tests that came in high was ALT at 61. Not sure how big a problem that represents. As for Kidney, BUN was at 25 and so was the ratio at 25 but Creatinine was in range at 1.02 and GFR at 87 (in range). My test was 1274 and free test 49.5.

    Honestly I was pretty scared on what I was going to see but I think this is reasonable given the length of my cycle no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGenRit View Post
    Hey there BB - Hope you had a great New Year!!! I wanted to get back to you on this question regarding hematocrit. I just had bloods drawn about 10 days ago - about 14 weeks into cycle and the results weren't that bad I don't think. I'm not as knowledgeable as you but from what I can gather, it looks not too bad. Hematocrit is 49.8 but RDW was high at 19 (not sure what that means). The only one of the Liver tests that came in high was ALT at 61. Not sure how big a problem that represents. As for Kidney, BUN was at 25 and so was the ratio at 25 but Creatinine was in range at 1.02 and GFR at 87 (in range). My test was 1274 and free test 49.5.

    Honestly I was pretty scared on what I was going to see but I think this is reasonable given the length of my cycle no?
    Your bw doesn't look bad... Your ALT will be elevated due to heavy lifting(and or if you ran an oral) but doesnt seem too high at all(what's the cut off range)?

    Your hematocrit is getting on the high(er) side... You want to keep it under 50%... Donate blood either a WRBC/or DRBC(but check your other lab work for when you felt best with where your hematocrit is) I like 44-48 myself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGenRit View Post
    Hey there BB - Hope you had a great New Year!!! I wanted to get back to you on this question regarding hematocrit. I just had bloods drawn about 10 days ago - about 14 weeks into cycle and the results weren't that bad I don't think. I'm not as knowledgeable as you but from what I can gather, it looks not too bad. Hematocrit is 49.8 but RDW was high at 19 (not sure what that means). The only one of the Liver tests that came in high was ALT at 61. Not sure how big a problem that represents. As for Kidney, BUN was at 25 and so was the ratio at 25 but Creatinine was in range at 1.02 and GFR at 87 (in range). My test was 1274 and free test 49.5.

    Honestly I was pretty scared on what I was going to see but I think this is reasonable given the length of my cycle no?
    Cant you post the whole hemogram? Its better to look at whole picture, RDW is ussually analised together with MCV. 19% is quite high, upper limit is 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Cant you post the whole hemogram? Its better to look at whole picture, RDW is ussually analised together with MCV. 19% is quite high, upper limit is 15.
    Hey BB, do agree with what I posted as well? I missed that RDW(and didn't see MCV) good catch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    Hey BB, do agree with what I posted as well? I missed that RDW(and didn't see MCV) good catch!
    Yeah, you are correct. But that big RDW might indicate some defficiencies, OP did you test for b12?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    Hey BB, do agree with what I posted as well? I missed that RDW(and didn't see MCV) good catch!
    Thanks Nach3 - just posted full BW below.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Cant you post the whole hemogram? Its better to look at whole picture, RDW is ussually analised together with MCV. 19% is quite high, upper limit is 15.
    Yeah absolutely - would be honored to have you take a glance guys. That's really appreciated.

    AGE: 47
    CYCLE: SEE ABOVE - During testing was taking 125mg EOD Test C/P/E and 100MG EOD Mast and 5iu Pharma HGH
    Weight 210 BF 6-7%

    CBC With Differential/Platelet
    WBC 5.1
    RBC 5.72
    Hemoglobin 16.6
    Hematocrit 49.8
    MCV 87
    MCH 29.0
    MCHC 33.3
    RDW 19.0 HIGH
    Platelets 220
    Neutrophils 48
    Lymphs 42
    Monocytes 8
    Eos 2
    Basos 0
    Neutrophils (Absolute) 2.5
    Lymphs (Absolute) 2.1
    Monocytes(Absolute) 0.4
    Eos (Absolute) 0.1
    Baso (Absolute) 0.0
    Immature Granulocytes 0
    Immature Grans (Abs) 0.0

    Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)
    Glucose, Serum 86
    BUN 25 High
    Creatinine, Serum 1.02
    eGFR If NonAfricn Am 87
    BUN/Creatinine Ratio 25 High

    Sodium, Serum 139
    Potassium, Serum 4.8
    Chloride, Serum 100
    Carbon Dioxide, Total 24
    Calcium, Serum 9.7
    Protein, Total, Serum 6.7
    Globulin, Total 2.1
    A/G Ratio 2.2
    Bilirubin, Total 0.6
    Alkaline Phosphatase, S 43
    AST (SGOT) 39
    ALT (SGPT) 61 High

    Lipid Panel w/ Chol/HDL Ratio
    Cholesterol, Total 191
    Triglycerides 67
    HDL Cholesterol 30 Low ***NOTE I ALWAYS RUN LOW SINCE I WAS IN MY EARLY 20s Last test a year ago at 39****
    VLDL Cholesterol Cal 13
    LDL Cholesterol Calc 148 High
    T. Chol/HDL Ratio 6.4 High

    Testosterone,Free and Total
    Testosterone, Serum 1274 High
    Free Testosterone(Direct) 49.5 High

    Estradiol, Sensitive
    Estradiol, Sensitive 15.4

    Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum
    Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum 8.5 Low
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGenRit View Post

    Testosterone,Free and Total
    Testosterone, Serum 1274 High
    Free Testosterone(Direct) 49.5 High


    Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum
    Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum 8.5 Low

    Question. If I'm reading this correctly you're doing a little over 400 mgs test when you pulled this BW? If so your serum level is horrible. It should be way higher.

    Also, when it comes to SHBG I'm glad you tested it. You need to keep an eye on things as low SHBG combined with cholesterol issues is a marker for metabolic syndrome. Google it. Yes, added test will suppress SHBG and it also will decrease due to aging. That said, your number is low imho. Next time you pull BW (off cycle) keep an eye on it as well as your CRP level. I'd also suggest an advanced NMR or VAP Lipo profile which breaks down your chol / LDL and gives a much more concise picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Question. If I'm reading this correctly you're doing a little over 400 mgs test when you pulled this BW? If so your serum level is horrible. It should be way higher.
    Thanks Kelkel - at the time of the test I was doing 125MG of Test EOD. Why would the amount of test effect the blood serum levels? What are the risks or indications of serum being low as you state? I do see they are within the healthy range the test form shows.

    Also - for taking that quantity of test and mast that I'm doing, aren't my test levels low at 1274? Or are my test levels ok there? How about Free test?

    I will research a little on the SHBG. How does the rest of my BW look? Anything else of concern? My pre-cycle LDL with medium/poor diet was 118. Now it's 148. Is that reasonable given my current cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGenRit View Post
    Thanks Kelkel - at the time of the test I was doing 125MG of Test EOD. Why would the amount of test effect the blood serum levels? What are the risks or indications of serum being low as you state? I do see they are within the healthy range the test form shows.

    Also - for taking that quantity of test and mast that I'm doing, aren't my test levels low at 1274? Or are my test levels ok there? How about Free test?

    I will research a little on the SHBG. How does the rest of my BW look? Anything else of concern? My pre-cycle LDL with medium/poor diet was 118. Now it's 148. Is that reasonable given my current cycle?

    When it comes to the total test level, I simply feel it's low. If I recall part of your 125 mgs is test C & E, a long ester. This, imho, makes concerns about BW timing moot. To give a personal example. My last BW on my TRT dose of 60 mgs x 2 per week came in over 1500 (unk exactly what as it's Labcorp) and my free T was 34, ten pts over their scale.

    Your free test is about double the labcorp range. Part of this is due to low shbg. It simply binds less FT. Re your lipids, reasonable is a tough word. Your lipids are not horrible but they're not great either. Keep an eye on them as previously stated due to the correlation with shbg. It can lead to cardiovascular issues, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Question. If I'm reading this correctly you're doing a little over 400 mgs test when you pulled this BW? If so your serum level is horrible. It should be way higher.
    I just realized you were referring to my test serum and not blood serum. I agree - it seems low. What would cause that? I know I was due for a shot the morning of my draw and I was told not to pin until after my test. I have no idea why it's not higher. Any theories?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGenRit View Post
    I just realized you were referring to my test serum and not blood serum. I agree - it seems low. What would cause that? I know I was due for a shot the morning of my draw and I was told not to pin until after my test. I have no idea why it's not higher. Any theories?
    Ugl or pharma? If pharma it shoulda been close to 7x your dose... But it was during a trough(if was right b4 your next pin) ... But still should be higher imho

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