Your 100% correct Nova in what you stated and to add further credibility to my thoughts and opinions on the matter if your visualise your lat insertion and then think of your lats like an elastic band if you stretch and contract the lats in a position were there are the furthest distance apart of the insertions you have the best scenario to build them bigger due to the bigger stretch and strongest contraction.
If you constantly stretch an elastic band to its fullest or a muscle eventually that muscle/ band will become more slack and room to grow this will cause them to grow and expand outwards. So the closer the hands the biggest stretch possible will occur on the lats. Before I go on any further I don't just recommend one exercise for lat width I really think many different width grips is the best way forward but no means a medium grip will make your lats the biggest and I will give a personal example.
when I prolapsed a disc in my back many years ago the hospital and consultant told me to stop training which at the time was am impossibility so I had a friend who was Dorians adviser at the time and he put onto Dorians chiropractor and physio who treats athletes. I was put on a regime of purely thickness exercises. I drooped deads completely even though I was a huge dead lifter I took them out and all I did was many different rows for thickness and he told me to do close grip pull down because this will increase the lats and make them explode outwards in width. I did this for over 12 month the main priority was thickness to help build rods of steel around my spine to help my disc issues. 12-18 months later my back blow out of control and the thickness was insane and width was fuking remarkable all from one movement close grip pull downs. When I had clients I would tell then the same when they were struggling with width and everyone made gains. Picture of my back below relaxed from pure thickness from the results of the above routine
Ronnie,
Dorian didn't build his back from medium grip pulldowns in his early career and he didn't inury his bicep doing wide grip pulldowns either. All DY's injuries came within 2-4 weeks out from a contest because he trained the same way as he did in the off season when in contest mode- he states this here in an interview with him, also second video shows DY showing why close grip pulldowns are better for the lats
I don't really want to go over and over this with you Ronnie because in all honesty its got nothing what so ever to do with building a big thick wide back. It's about promoting your book and Ronnie if you want some advice I would hold back from all the old friends who have suddenly appeared on every thread you make about your book who haven't been on the forum for years promoting evey word you say and also the false accounts in every thread you start about selling your book.
To be very honest and straight to the the point I would think an outsider wouldn't buy it because of how your going about promoting it. It reminds me of one of these sneaky reps on other boards promoting generic gh. Have you ever thought about doing a proper sales attack and promotions for your book like giving it away to some guys in here who would give honest feedback? Not sure if you would get good or bad feedback but it would be a honest true review of the book from people who know what they are talking about and who have lived and breathed the sport, that's just an idea of the top of my head but it looks better than how its being promoted in this forum because all it seems to be doing is giving it a bad rap and also the forum.
Don't take anything I've said as an attack I'm actually trying to help you otherwise your going to be losing all credibility extremely fast which would hurt sales of your book IMHO. I class you has a good friend and in my own honest way trying to help you see what things are looking like from an outsider looking in.
Best of look I am out of here
Originally Posted by novastepp
