wide grip for a wide back?

[Mr.BB]

I get great pump on my lats by making sure the elbow stays close to body on any row or pulldown movement.

Example of workout:
Pull over (DB or cable, like this for warmup)
BB bent over row (under hand grip)
T bar close grip (by now my lats have crazy pump)
Hammer strength pulldown (close grip)
Only then I do some wide grip pull down behind neck for example, if still have some energy. The row and pulldown movements try to keep elbow close to body. If my elbow is lose the lat activation and pump is not so great.

....Just my 2 cents

[NACH3]

I get great pump on my lats by making sure the elbow stays close to body on any row or pulldown movement.

Example of workout:
Pull over (DB or cable, like this for warmup)
BB bent over row (under hand grip)
T bar close grip (by now my lats have crazy pump)
Hammer strength pulldown (close grip)
Only then I do some wide grip pull down behind neck for example, if still have some energy. The row and pulldown movements try to keep elbow close to body. If my elbow is lose the lat activation and pump is not so great.

....Just my 2 cents

Agreed!

I definitely get a better back w/o w/thickness movements(rows upon rows) w/some accessory lifts... But I too, like my elbows in - it's the best way to isolate your lats(arch and chest up at peak contraction)

If you do mainly thickness movements - your lats will have no other option but to go outwards(said/& backed by Marcus) and I listened and it works very well