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    Quote Originally Posted by rGus View Post
    Npp will give more strengh than tren? That's nonsense.


    And you don't have to run test at high dosage. If I were you would run 350 mg for test and 200 mg for tren. Later on your cycle bump tren up to 250 and then maybe even 300. You'll love the results.

    Another thing to consider is how much rest one is getting on cycle(with either compound)as off me when I run short esters I sleep like I'm on tren, although I am not lol... hence why imho nandrolone is a surefire way to gain great strength and size(NPP or deca)... I've run both(not to mention both nandrolone esters) seemed just as good for stretto than tren except the hard dry look That tren gives... Some have a harder time eating on tren too... Now I'm surely not trying to cut tren short(it is the strongest compound a/a rating/ratio there is)!! Also, if your not cutting or anything then run your test higher! That's what makes us men and helps us grow much more!!

    I'll agree with Musclestack and Tax... As well as know there is nothing like experiencing it for yourself!

    What are your goals OP? A more leaner dryer look? Then go with Low dose tren - if nutrition and training are on point you'll get great results with both!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    What are your goals OP? A more leaner dryer look? Then go with Low dose tren - if nutrition and training are on point you'll get great results with both!
    Finishing up a hell of a cut.... have two weeks left.
    Spent the last two years more or less doing 5x5, 5/3/1, madcow types of programs getting my lifts up. My strength has gone to shit on this cut and I'm looking to get bigger and stronger while staying in the 10-12%bf range..... doable if your nutrition is 100% on point

    began cut at the beginning of the year
    217lb
    ~20% bf
    lifts here 3/4/5 b/sq/dl
    current
    180lb
    sub 10%bf


    I'll be getting a dexa scan at the end of this, but I plan to end up in the 173/6% range.

    Figure this would be a great time to jump on and reap some big gains... but I also wanted to capitalize on my new found nutrition habits and keep my diet 100% in check.....
    looking for new pr's in the 3 major lifts...will be running the RTS 9week lifting program...

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    Quote Originally Posted by upperhandy View Post
    Finishing up a hell of a cut.... have two weeks left.
    Spent the last two years more or less doing 5x5, 5/3/1, madcow types of programs getting my lifts up. My strength has gone to shit on this cut and I'm looking to get bigger and stronger while staying in the 10-12%bf range..... doable if your nutrition is 100% on point

    began cut at the beginning of the year
    217lb
    ~20% bf
    lifts here 3/4/5 b/sq/dl
    current
    180lb
    sub 10%bf


    I'll be getting a dexa scan at the end of this, but I plan to end up in the 173/6% range.

    Figure this would be a great time to jump on and reap some big gains... but I also wanted to capitalize on my new found nutrition habits and keep my diet 100% in check.....
    looking for new pr's in the 3 major lifts...will be running the RTS 9week lifting program...
    It would be a great time to cycle... Your glycogen levels will be at a minimum(for how long - if you time this right you' should explode)... It's like priming... Picture your body as a sponge it's going to soak up and flush all the nutrients Into those muscles... Eat big and train hard heavy and intense - start reading this thread

    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-l...eon%2A%2A.html

    Congrats on the weight loss and getting down there - it takes a ton if dicispline!

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