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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowFever View Post
    damn thanks for that link its something ive been searching for for a while it seems though most of these people are not doing a pct or are very young...im 24 as long as i do my cycle correctly i shouldnt have any problem correct?
    Believing that a proper PCT will restore your serum levels to what they were pre cycle is the biggest myth among users.

    A proper PCT will only increase the chance of you having a full recovery.

    In life nothing as a guarantees.

    he endocrine system usually stops developing around age 25-26.

    The younger you are the greater the chance you have of not fully recovering.

    If you do a cycle you may get bigger faster stronger, but if you don't know how to eat correctly you will lose everything when off cycle.

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    Believing that a proper PCT will restore your serum levels to what they were pre cycle is the biggest myth among users.

    A proper PCT will only increase the chance of you having a full recovery.

    In life nothing as a guarantees.

    he endocrine system usually stops developing around age 25-26.

    The younger you are the greater the chance you have of not fully recovering.

    If you do a cycle you may get bigger faster stronger, but if you don't know how to eat correctly you will lose everything when off cycle.
    well thanks i really appreciate these things the last thing i wanted was for someone to just tell me I'm good to go and shit like i wont know untill i try them so i might as well jump into it (pretty much my sources advice)...which i don't take because he doesn't care about his body or mine... someone should really make a thread about this because a lot of what I've read says that you will return to normal as long as you do it smart.. that being said I do know how to eat and im not so worried about that my only real concerns are gyno, and permanent ED...i can deal with ed for a month or two but not being able to be with women would haunt me forever... gyno is ultimately fixable albeit expensive.. do you guys see that doctors are generally able to get hormones back to a working state after people fuck them up..? also im pretty sure im done developing and i think the endocrine system usually stops developing at 23-24 and most people just say to wait untill 25 in case your a late bloomer.. but yeah i understand nothing can be guaranteed in life but im more looking for a risk assessment so as to see how frequently people that do a smart and correct cycle.. fuck themselves up with ED or other wierd hormonal changes...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowFever View Post
    well thanks i really appreciate these things the last thing i wanted was for someone to just tell me I'm good to go and shit like i wont know untill i try them so i might as well jump into it (pretty much my sources advice)...which i don't take because he doesn't care about his body or mine... someone should really make a thread about this because a lot of what I've read says that you will return to normal as long as you do it smart.. that being said I do know how to eat and im not so worried about that my only real concerns are gyno, and permanent ED...i can deal with ed for a month or two but not being able to be with women would haunt me forever... gyno is ultimately fixable albeit expensive.. do you guys see that doctors are generally able to get hormones back to a working state after people fuck them up..? also im pretty sure im done developing and i think the endocrine system usually stops developing at 23-24 and most people just say to wait untill 25 in case your a late bloomer.. but yeah i understand nothing can be guaranteed in life but im more looking for a risk assessment so as to see how frequently people that do a smart and correct cycle.. fuck themselves up with ED or other wierd hormonal changes...?
    No offense but you're 5'10" 165, you have no idea how to eat.

    Cycling at those stats would be a complete waste of your hormonal health.

    Actually, there is a stick tread, a few posts up, about cycling at a young age.

    The young and Steroids

    You really are too young to cycle and if you'd like to read about the issues other guys your age face when using AAS then read some on the threads in the link below.

    ***Cycles going wrong for the young***

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    No offense but you're 5'10" 165, you have no idea how to eat.

    Cycling at those stats would be a complete waste of your hormonal health.

    Actually, there is a stick tread, a few posts up, about cycling at a young age.



    You really are too young to cycle and if you'd like to read about the issues other guys your age face when using AAS then read some on the threads in the link below.


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    respectfully ive read almost all of those and didnt find anyone who was 24 on those forums..they were all around 20.. and maybe I am not eating correctly but its nothing but whole foods except for the protein powder, msm, glutimate, creatine, Ill frequently eat about 3/4ths a lb of good quality ground beef, almost all organic foods, several eggs per day, coconut oil, avacados, bannanas, blueberries, rice, lots of spinach, organic grass fed whole milk, ill eat about 3000 calories per day, about 1 gram of protein per bodyweight, ive gone up about 15-20 lbs of muscle in the past 6 months ish...i know this isnt the nutrition forum and I will take a look at it again but i believe diet and nutrition to be my strong suit...ONce again I am just trying to play devils advocate and if im not ready im not ready and I will accept that...but im also a hard headed irish man

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowFever View Post
    respectfully ive read almost all of those and didnt find anyone who was 24 on those forums..they were all around 20.. and maybe I am not eating correctly but its nothing but whole foods except for the protein powder, msm, glutimate, creatine, Ill frequently eat about 3/4ths a lb of good quality ground beef, almost all organic foods, several eggs per day, coconut oil, avacados, bannanas, blueberries, rice, lots of spinach, organic grass fed whole milk, ill eat about 3000 calories per day, about 1 gram of protein per bodyweight, ive gone up about 15-20 lbs of muscle in the past 6 months ish...i know this isnt the nutrition forum and I will take a look at it again but i believe diet and nutrition to be my strong suit...ONce again I am just trying to play devils advocate and if im not ready im not ready and I will accept that...but im also a hard headed irish man
    Alright buddy good luck with things.

    I just don't understand why someone who put on 20lb in the last 8 months naturally needs a cycle.

    You should easily be able to get to 180 lb naturally if you lean how to eat.

    IMO at your current stats your TDEE is about 3k.

    So if you want to gain you should be eating at in the ballpark of 3,300-3,500 calories a day.

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