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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker78 View Post
    Great Metalject. I like it a lot. Unfortunately, this is a confusion period i'm going through. I have studied a lot about steroids, too much maybe. And today, after i did just one cycle 2 years ago ( it goes very well as i followed perfectly all safe guidelines ), i'm a bit afraid to start again using the AAS, even moderate dosages ( 300-500mg/w of test ). Atherosclerosis, direct heart damage, vascular reactivity, unbalance Cholesterol/HDL ratio, LVH, BPH, and the long list of all athletes which experiment heavy cardiovascular issues at 40 age, likely next to die early than one never used AAS, moving me to do some steps back it about. It's not just keeping in control E2 and HCT, HDL, otherwise many athletes which died, never should had their issues, because as far as i know, they kept in control their blood too regularly.... but it wasn't enough. Yes, you could say "they used enormous dosages and never paused for long time" and this is exactly the question:

    1) Checking E2 and keeping it in range
    2) Checking HDL and Cholesterol/HDL ratio
    3) Using moderate dosages of gear ( max 750 mg/week in total )
    4) Checking HCT and donate blood if it raises too much as we know
    5) Eating perfectly without sugar, observing with the maximum care the diet and macros.
    6) Taking NAC almost 1200mg/day
    7) Doing often a good cardio ( 20-30 mins/day )
    8) Taking Bx vitamins and keeping an eye Homocisteine
    9) Taking baby-aspiring 81mg/day
    10) To be free of genetic coagulation defeats ( Leiden V Factor, C - S proteins, etc.. )
    11) Doing a perfect PCT
    12) Waiting enough time before to start a new cycle again, to allow body to re-estabilish its physiological hormone balance

    How much the chances to destroy own cardiovascular system, risking heart attack, strokes, even in future ?

    This is due i suppose there are factors that nodoby could control even doing things perfectly as i wrote above. And these factors, are those ones that lead many athletes to die or going close to death, destroying irreversibly, their lives.

    I'd like to use AAS, even sometimes with a moderate dosages, as i'm not interested to become Mr. Olympia, neither to achieve a big muscle mass. But it's undeniable the help AAS could give, even with only 300mg/w of simply test.

    But risking things go out of control and find themselves after a few years with a stroke and/or heart attack in an hospital bed, it's not my target.

    Great post, anyway ! Thank you
    Yes, there's risk with steroid use and I wouldn't imply otherwise. And I'd also say there's more risk than some here imply with all the talk of "Proper PCT" a phrase that absolutely drives me up the wall.

    That said, your fears - the people you're talking about that die at age 40, of all the bodybuilders in the world or that have ever been, this isn't the case for most. Do some die young, yes, but most don't. Of all the higher profile ones that die young, in almost all cases there was a lot more than steroids involved. That can't be ignored.

    Another issue with the death comments we hear from time to time, the "we don't know what the long term effects are" comment is ridiculous. Yes we do, steroids have been around going on 100yrs now and there are plenty of "old retired" bodybuilders still walking around just fine. Maybe some of them will die at 75 rather than 80, maybe some of them will live to be 98 years old...who knows?

    Regardless, everything in life has risk if it has any worth. Start a business, it has risk, you could go broke. Buy a motorcycle, it has risk, you could die. Have sex, there's risk, someone gets pregnant. The point, decide what risks you're willing to take, figure out ways to help minimize the risks, understand that nothing in life that's worth anything is risk free, you may fail, but move forward, live and go on with your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
    Yes, there's risk with steroid use and I wouldn't imply otherwise. And I'd also say there's more risk than some here imply with all the talk of "Proper PCT" a phrase that absolutely drives me up the wall.

    That said, your fears - the people you're talking about that die at age 40, of all the bodybuilders in the world or that have ever been, this isn't the case for most. Do some die young, yes, but most don't. Of all the higher profile ones that die young, in almost all cases there was a lot more than steroids involved. That can't be ignored.

    Another issue with the death comments we hear from time to time, the "we don't know what the long term effects are" comment is ridiculous. Yes we do, steroids have been around going on 100yrs now and there are plenty of "old retired" bodybuilders still walking around just fine. Maybe some of them will die at 75 rather than 80, maybe some of them will live to be 98 years old...who knows?

    Regardless, everything in life has risk if it has any worth. Start a business, it has risk, you could go broke. Buy a motorcycle, it has risk, you could die. Have sex, there's risk, someone gets pregnant. The point, decide what risks you're willing to take, figure out ways to help minimize the risks, understand that nothing in life that's worth anything is risk free, you may fail, but move forward, live and go on with your life.
    All is right. The only difference about all risks inside the environments you told, is just one: rate % of risk. This is a very not-negligible variable which makes an HUGE difference. Racing as a mad with a car, increases the risk to have an accident more than one don't. The same is using AAS, and the rate of risk to shattering definitely your life, is enough high. It's not a criticism this, pay attention, but just a personal consideration by a steroids abuser like me, which likely will not use them anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker78
    All is right. The only difference about all risks inside the environments you told, is just one: rate % of risk. This is a very not-negligible variable which makes an HUGE difference. Racing as a mad with a car, increases the risk to have an accident more than one don't. The same is using AAS, and the rate of risk to shattering definitely your life, is enough high. It's not a criticism this, pay attention, but just a personal consideration by a steroids abuser like me, which likely will not use them anymore.
    sounds like your estrogen is a little high man, you're getting all emo on us.
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