Are Tranquilizers Holding Me Back ?

[pudgeball]

The benzos aren't holding you back, but the anxiety will. Forget about steroids until you have your psych issues under control.

What do you mean by under control ? Medication-free, or symptom free ? I've been struggling with the trauma/abuse for for 3 years . . . I'm really bummed out that you're saying I pretty much have a prison sentence to never get reasonably in shape :/ .

I went to the Dr. yesterday and she still is keeping me on lexapro 5mg (which is helping), but I'm going to be taking 100-200mg of seroquel a night for sleep . I was still given a refill on the 1mg xanax, 2mg klonopin, and 0.5mg Halcion , but those are suppost to be just as needed now since the seroquel is suppost to used nightly for sleep .

If the seroquel and lexapro work out and keep me feeling safe/calm will I ever have a chance to get in shape ? I've heard the weight gain is pretty bad on seroquel and it still messes with your sleep architecture (not as bad as benzos though) .

[hammerheart]

What do you mean by under control ? Medication-free, or symptom free ? I've been struggling with the trauma/abuse for for 3 years . . . I'm really bummed out that you're saying I pretty much have a prison sentence to never get reasonably in shape :/ .

I went to the Dr. yesterday and she still is keeping me on lexapro 5mg (which is helping), but I'm going to be taking 100-200mg of seroquel a night for sleep . I was still given a refill on the 1mg xanax, 2mg klonopin, and 0.5mg Halcion , but those are suppost to be just as needed now since the seroquel is suppost to used nightly for sleep .

If the seroquel and lexapro work out and keep me feeling safe/calm will I ever have a chance to get in shape ? I've heard the weight gain is pretty bad on seroquel and it still messes with your sleep architecture (not as bad as benzos though) .

Your doc is a butcher. Prescribing quetiapine for sleeping is indicative of BAD clinical practice.

[Mr.BB]

Your doc is a butcher. Prescribing quetiapine for sleeping is indicative of BAD clinical practice.

Agreed. Either that or its not only a sleeping problem...

For the OP, plenty of ppl, in fact most ppl, get in shape without steroids, I did for many years. You dont need steroids to get in shape.

[pudgeball]

Agreed. Either that or its not only a sleeping problem...

For the OP, plenty of ppl, in fact most ppl, get in shape without steroids, I did for many years. You dont need steroids to get in shape.

I have anxiety and ptsd from a near death experience/abuse growing up which produces the hypervigilance and insomnia . and by in shape, I mean I wanna be able to bench at least 315 for 5 with for a few sets and have a flat belly .

[Mp859]

I have anxiety and ptsd from a near death experience/abuse growing up which produces the hypervigilance and insomnia . and by in shape, I mean I wanna be able to bench at least 315 for 5 with for a few sets and have a flat belly .

Not to be a dick but it sounds like you need to see a good psychiatrist.

[pudgeball]

Not to be a dick but it sounds like you need to see a good psychiatrist.

You just care and are being honest . Sadly, That's like finding a car that runs on water but I'll be searching for one today . . .

[pudgeball]

I know you're probably not an MD, but what would you do if your in my shoes ? Stay on the benzos nightly for anxiety/ptsd driven insomnia until the lexapro kicks in ? My worry is that the lexapro could take a month or two to control (IF it does) the nighttime anxiety and then I have the annoyance of tapering off the halcion klonopin and xanax . . .assuming my tolerance hasn't increased even further .

also why's the seroquel such a bad choice ? The weight gain ? The antipsychotic class ?

I know this isn't a psych support forum but this is the only place where I could find intelligent fitness minded people who might understand what I'm going through with this very difficult/frustrating situation . Thank you seriously everyone for helping me muddle through this and for your advice and help .

[pudgeball]

Your doc is a butcher. Prescribing quetiapine for sleeping is indicative of BAD clinical practice.

I know you're probably not an MD, but what would you do if your in my shoes ? Stay on the benzos nightly for anxiety/ptsd driven insomnia until the lexapro kicks in ? My worry is that the lexapro could take a month or two to control (IF it does) the nighttime anxiety and then I have the annoyance of tapering off the halcion klonopin and xanax . . .assuming my tolerance hasn't increased even further .

also why's the seroquel such a bad choice ? The weight gain ? The antipsychotic class ?

I know this isn't a psych support forum but this is the only place where I could find intelligent fitness minded people who might understand what I'm going through with this very difficult/frustrating situation . Thank you seriously everyone for helping me muddle through this and for your advice and help .

[KimboHalfSlice]

Your doc is a butcher. Prescribing quetiapine for sleeping is indicative of BAD clinical practice.

Not totally sure about that..... it's not uncommon at all to walk around a psych ward and see quite a few prescribed the likes of seroquel or zyprexa to put them to sleep.......... however these people have likely been prescribed Zopiclone/Zolpidem for months or years and they no longer work.

Oh also I forgot to mention something:

If you're gonna to take Tren, then at least be a gentleman about it and put a down-payment on your funeral.

Trenbolone + PsychMeds = The Zombie Apocalypse

[hammerheart]

Not totally sure about that..... it's not uncommon at all to walk around a psych ward and see quite a few prescribed the likes of seroquel or zyprexa to put them to sleep.......... however these people have likely been prescribed Zopiclone/Zolpidem for months or years and they no longer work.

These drugs obviously have their place in selected patients, but I often see docs abusing them when not needed.

Psych wards? In Italy we had these OPG (psychiatric jails) shutdown this year because they looked like some lager from soviet union and human rights didn't apply there.

If you're gonna to take Tren, then at least be a gentleman about it and put a down-payment on your funeral.

Trenbolone + PsychMeds = The Zombie Apocalypse

Is this directed to me?

[KimboHalfSlice]

Is this directed to me?

Nope. Directed at the OP and anyone considering steroids while on loonie toon medication

[KimboHalfSlice]

Psych wards? In Italy we had these OPG (psychiatric jails) shutdown this year because they looked like some lager from soviet union and human rights didn't apply there.

We have one in Ireland called "Dundrum". Dundrum is actually the name of the entire area but the lunatic assylum simply gets called Dundrum.

I was held on remand in the padded cell in Cloverhill Prison and I smeered it with shit....... then they came in and cleaned it........... then I smeered it with shit again..... then they moved me out to a loonie ward in a normal medical hospital nearby.

Next time I saw my original psychiatrist, he simply walked into the room with my file (about the weight of a phone book by this stage), fucked it on the table and goes "You're going to kill yourself"....... to which I answered "Is that a self-fulfilling prophecy?"........ to which he answered "No......... You're lucky they didn't put you in Dundrum" and he walked out of the room.

My original psychiatrist was one of those folk who like to to tell junkies that they're bipolar so that he can send them away with tranquillisers and hope that they don't come back. Unfortunately I came back. Time and time again. Then with self-inflicted injuries. It was only years later that I saw another psychiatrist who overruled his misdiagnosis. I'm told that this happens a lot in the United States of America.